Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Your not even trying to get any facts.
I'm asking you to provide them to back your assertions. I'm simply not willing to "google" results, as those aren't facts. Hopefully Molakule can provide some insight here, given he's a blender.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
And your comments does not make any sense at all. You can ask Shell about it and they will tell you that Shell helix ultra 0w-40 have more gtl than the 5w-40.
The people at the Shell tech support desk do not have intimate knowledge of their oil formulations. In that context, my comments make perfect sense. They are not going to divulge proprietary blending information to a random end user.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
5w-40 is common viscosity and chepest oils too in my country. Is it so hard to understand that i was talking about 0w-xx GTL oils?
I'm aware 5w-40 is cheaper and more common generally. That doesn't in any way affect how much GTL base oil is in the product however. There are majority PAO 5w-40's out there that would be more expensive to blend than a Group III 0w-40. I fully understand that you want to keep this discussion focused on 0w-xx, my question for you, and one you still haven't answered is why the GTL-based 5w-40 that had LL-01 is being overlooked here.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Do you really think that mobil 1 didnt want to pay to get the Bmw LL01?
It is certainly possible if they knew the spec was going away, as per the post in the Euro oil section I linked you to earlier. Same reason Shell may have not pursued it for their recent 0w-40 blend and likely why the TwinPower 0w-40 has gone away, along with the LL-01 5w-30.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Their is no oil brand with viscosity of 0w-xx that have gtl over 50% that will get the BMW Longlife 1.
As per your posit. Again, I'm just asking for some supporting information. Telling me to google it isn't going to cut it. I would like a technical explanation, preferably from somebody who actually blends oils as to why this is the case.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Mobil 1 fs 0w-40 contain 40-70% gtl,this info is via your old post here at the forum. Nice work! Now bring me someting about the bmw twin power 0w-40,voa or a uoa so i can compere zink amount or titanium
A VOA or UOA isn't going to tell us much about the GTL content though, right? And since that oil is now discontinued, obtaining new information is going to be even more difficult.
Does it feel like we are going round-and-round yet?
The voa will tell you what oil it is... And does it not ring any bells if its gonna be discontinued? You will see in future that its not gonna be any bmw ll01 0w-xx gtl oils. You have posted mobil 1 fs 0w-40 msds on this site:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4028815/Mobil_1_now_containing_GTL
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Your not even trying to get any facts.
I'm asking you to provide them to back your assertions. I'm simply not willing to "google" results, as those aren't facts. Hopefully Molakule can provide some insight here, given he's a blender.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
And your comments does not make any sense at all. You can ask Shell about it and they will tell you that Shell helix ultra 0w-40 have more gtl than the 5w-40.
The people at the Shell tech support desk do not have intimate knowledge of their oil formulations. In that context, my comments make perfect sense. They are not going to divulge proprietary blending information to a random end user.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
5w-40 is common viscosity and chepest oils too in my country. Is it so hard to understand that i was talking about 0w-xx GTL oils?
I'm aware 5w-40 is cheaper and more common generally. That doesn't in any way affect how much GTL base oil is in the product however. There are majority PAO 5w-40's out there that would be more expensive to blend than a Group III 0w-40. I fully understand that you want to keep this discussion focused on 0w-xx, my question for you, and one you still haven't answered is why the GTL-based 5w-40 that had LL-01 is being overlooked here.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Do you really think that mobil 1 didnt want to pay to get the Bmw LL01?
It is certainly possible if they knew the spec was going away, as per the post in the Euro oil section I linked you to earlier. Same reason Shell may have not pursued it for their recent 0w-40 blend and likely why the TwinPower 0w-40 has gone away, along with the LL-01 5w-30.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Their is no oil brand with viscosity of 0w-xx that have gtl over 50% that will get the BMW Longlife 1.
As per your posit. Again, I'm just asking for some supporting information. Telling me to google it isn't going to cut it. I would like a technical explanation, preferably from somebody who actually blends oils as to why this is the case.
Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
Mobil 1 fs 0w-40 contain 40-70% gtl,this info is via your old post here at the forum. Nice work! Now bring me someting about the bmw twin power 0w-40,voa or a uoa so i can compere zink amount or titanium
A VOA or UOA isn't going to tell us much about the GTL content though, right? And since that oil is now discontinued, obtaining new information is going to be even more difficult.
Does it feel like we are going round-and-round yet?
The voa will tell you what oil it is... And does it not ring any bells if its gonna be discontinued? You will see in future that its not gonna be any bmw ll01 0w-xx gtl oils. You have posted mobil 1 fs 0w-40 msds on this site:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4028815/Mobil_1_now_containing_GTL