I had need to contact Valvoline's customer care department and took the opportunity to ask if they had removed molybdenum from the full syn Maxlife as they had with the syn-blend. ... ... ...
This obviously comes as no surprise but I thought the part about a "much better" FM taking molybdenum's place was interesting and may help reassure those that felt the product had been cheapened with it's removal.
Pfftftt. They are using something else because it's cheaper,plain and simple.
No. high PPM moly FM packages don't pass current TEOST and piston deposit testing in the new standards - its a Dirty additive and organometals are cat and lambda killers. The Valvoline in my sig appears to keep my cars running cleaner ( from what I can tell) than QSUD or M1. though it contributes to noisier operation.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Clevy said:
10cent said:
I had need to contact Valvoline's customer care department and took the opportunity to ask if they had removed molybdenum from the full syn Maxlife as they had with the syn-blend. ... ... ...
This obviously comes as no surprise but I thought the part about a "much better" FM taking molybdenum's place was interesting and may help reassure those that felt the product had been cheapened with it's removal.[/
Arco. Your hate for moly is well documented here however if moly is so bad why is only Ashland dropping it.
The new ultra and platinum still have it,and they told is that the new formulations meet gf-6,so if they can make it work why can't Ashland.
And Castrol,with their oil that came in the winner in the teost testing by amsoil contains moly,as well as every single m1 product other than their bike oils.
Are you implying that all these oils aren't going to met the new standard because they have moly.
It's getting pretty thick in here. I've read some real whoppers posted by you before however you've outdone yourself this time.
Remember when mos2 ruined your engine. Hillarious.
This post is as credible as that one.
So 0w20 with high PPM (>500) dithiocarbamates now meet GF5 TEOST because you said so, disregarding all industry bench test that say it doesn't?( though it gets a pass in GF5 for non-turbo use). I'm not discussing GF5/6 lubricants with modest (<100ppm) levels of the newer infinium moly boron organometallic compounds. I like moly, but not high PPM of MoS2 from my experience in running the stuff in lambda controlled engines. In fact Im running under ~500PPM of LiquiMoly now in my VSP 0w20 - not the whole can of the stuff. Moderation is key - esp treating 1.5 litre displacement.
