Zee09
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There is a natural soaking for all things European. Best thing you can do is embrace the fleecing or it will drive you nuts 
Expensive oil and gas and maintenance...enjoy 
Expensive oil and gas and maintenance...enjoy 
Does one need a Euro-speced oil?
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but its in my signature, what do you mean?
Sorry, did not see on the phone.
Not sure what is going on with your engine.
This is my N52, has 216,000km, and I track this car:
sorry i misunderstood what you were saying.what i meant is that my engine is as good as yours! my bad! thanks for the pics! i had mine posted at the past in a bmw forum that no longer exists .
Sort of like what AEHass does with his cars. Recommend 60 grade, he uses 5W racing oils instead
Ah ok. Yeah at that km better be
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Why risk a problem by trying to out think the Engineers in Germany?
Just use an oil which meet the manufacturers spec.
I guess it's about trust or determining when the engineers won out over the accountants/emissions police. Police vehicles fitted with the BMW N57 are catching fire in the UK right? BMW N47/N20 were the latest with timing chain problems, Valve guide seals BMW N-series V8's, Rod bearings on various BMW S-series engines. The list goes on and on.
wemay
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Oil recommendations are just that. No one needs Euro oils but they do have more stringent approvals than an API / ILSAC offering. The choice is always the consumer's.
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That’s nothing to do with oil.
That was an issue with the DPF if memory serves.
Likely caused by excessive idling then high speed usage causing a Regen to be requested and the DPF getting too hot.
The MetPolice still have hundreds of diesel BMWs, they are used for Traffic, Area Cars, as Armed Response vehicles and used for SEG (Special Escort Group) convoys.
The BMW Dealer I bought my 745Le from maintains loads of these vehicles, mainly Traffic Cars.
IJS it speaks to the "trust in engineers" manta as these are all engineering failures. There have been a plethora of EGR (cooling) recalls for the N-series diesels because when they fail the exhaust gases are no longer cooled. The lack of cooling allows these hot gases to perforate (melt) the intake and set fire to other items within the engine bay.
The front main bearings on the S65 go boom because of the upward pressure put on the crank from the timing chains.
Point being we all trust sometimes, sometimes not.
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What makes you think maintenance is more expensive? or oils?
When I hear someone talking-up their performance car I ask them where they track it? Usually they don't. Can't explore the boundaries legally on public roads, at least in the US and Canada. But yes, performance Euro cars should get performance Euro oil. It's for a good reason.
I have never heard of shelf Walmart oil.isn't it? or you using off the shelf Walmart oil like me?
There are Mobil1, Castrol, Pennzoil, etc. specific ones for "expensive European sports car fraternity" and they are exactly the same price as oil for, idk, Toyota Corolla. Oil filters are the same price, as oil filters for any other car.
apparently you didn't notice what is in my Avatar.
Which European approvals does that oil have?apparently you didn't notice what is in my Avatar.
it doesn't... but it meets Jap car requirement... and EDDYVW was trying to make the point that it doesn't cost more to service a Euro car oil when most people who deal with the stuff know it usually costs more to service European cars.
In general every part for them is more expensive.. just the way it is..
To me, it’s high rpm that creates the heat in oil, requiring a higher grade to compensate for a loss of temperature related lower viscosity. The rest is just the European efforts to produce a good oil. They have their pride and don’t feel like bending over to the USA, which by the way is subject to gas mileage requirements promoting the use of lower viscosities. Here’s a bit on CAFE regulated fleet gas mileage requirements.
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