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#4662408 - 02/10/18 11:32 PM Purolator failure?
gtmaster303 Offline


Registered: 06/02/14
Posts: 111
Loc: NJ, USA
Maybe y'all can help me figure out if this is good or bad
Attached are pics of Purolator filter after just under 11k miles from my 2010 Caynne V6.
Car currently has 68k miles on it
Filter can out looking very compromised and distorted.
Car is from the northeast, lots of cold starts and short trips. Used Mobil 1 10w30 for about 1.5 years




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#4662409 - 02/10/18 11:34 PM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2963
Loc: USA
Not good! I'd run it for less miles or use a Fram Ultra (or similar) instead.

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#4662411 - 02/10/18 11:37 PM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: Reddy45]
gtmaster303 Offline


Registered: 06/02/14
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Care to elaborate why not good?
I'd like some additional details about what went wrong here
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#4662413 - 02/10/18 11:39 PM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2319
Loc: San Antonio, TX
A number of Fram Ultra cartridge filters have been shown to be problematic.

Perhaps consider a Wix as an alternative to test?
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#4662417 - 02/10/18 11:55 PM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
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Loc: North Carolina
Filter looks put through the wringer.

Start by using an appropriate oil. Mobil 10W-30 doesn't meet the specs for your vehicle and you've likely been beating it into Oblivion with your extended drains and usage pattern.

You need a Porsche A40-approved oil; ACEA A3/B4 at a minimum. Only use Mann, Mahle, or Hengst filters.

I would also look into replacing your filter bypass valve.
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#4662420 - 02/11/18 12:01 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
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crzy Did you run over it before you took the pictures?
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#4662421 - 02/11/18 12:07 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: rooflessVW]
bbhero Offline


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RooflessVW is exactly right about this... Don't go cheap on oil and oil filter for that make and model vehicle. Get the right oil and oil filter for it.
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#4662423 - 02/11/18 12:16 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
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#4662427 - 02/11/18 12:25 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
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Originally Posted By: gtmaster303
Care to elaborate why not good?
I'd like some additional details about what went wrong here


The way the filter looks to be 'crushed' inwards seems like an indication the media lost its rigidity or there was a pressure issue and the filter couldn't go into bypass mode. Just my novice guess though as there are some experts here who can read the condition better.

I know the cardboard/fiber end caps are not a problem, but I'd personally feel more comfortable with a 10K OCI if my filter had metal end caps.

*Edit - I guess this is a cartridge filter so the metal end caps aren't applicable -- disregard that point.

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#4662429 - 02/11/18 12:30 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: Reddy45]
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Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17765
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Yep, looks like too much delta-p going on. The cold weather start-ups with thicker than specified oil doesn't help. Internal bypass valve might not be working correctly either.

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#4662436 - 02/11/18 12:56 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 499
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Let me see if I have all the details straight:

1. You drive a 2010 Porsche Caynne
2. You were using a Purolator oil filter that appears to be catastrophically deformed
3. You normally run an OCI of 11,000 miles
4. Drained oil appears to completely black or near black

Is that correct?

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#4662440 - 02/11/18 01:21 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
AntsinmyEyes Offline


Registered: 08/09/15
Posts: 199
Loc: Colorado
looks like a maintenance failure not a filter failure to me
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#4662442 - 02/11/18 01:34 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
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Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
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I won't run a Pure 1 any longer than 4K miles while using Mobil 1 or other quality synthetic. Lots of cold starts and cold trips sounds like you should be on 6 month oil change regimen....5K-8K miles. Oil is cheap compared to your engine...at least if you do the OC's yourself (figure $20-$30 for synthetic oil and synthetic media filter).
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#4662485 - 02/11/18 04:54 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: bbhero]
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Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10251
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Filter looks put through the wringer.

Start by using an appropriate oil. Mobil 10W-30 doesn't meet the specs for your vehicle and you've likely been beating it into Oblivion with your extended drains and usage pattern.

You need a Porsche A40-approved oil; ACEA A3/B4 at a minimum. Only use Mann, Mahle, or Hengst filters.

I would also look into replacing your filter bypass valve.



Yeah last time I did one of those I used EDGE 0w40 and MANN filter

Originally Posted By: bbhero
RooflessVW is exactly right about this... Don't go cheap on oil and oil filter for that make and model vehicle. Get the right oil and oil filter for it.


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#4662499 - 02/11/18 05:52 AM Re: Purolator failure? [Re: gtmaster303]
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Loc: Southeast Florida
There is way too little information about this situation, and the information known points towards questionable regimen.
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