Fram Endurance FE10060 Cut Open - 9709 miles - HPL PCEO

[racer12306]

This is from a whole interval, I meant to do a mid-interval filter change but a vacation got in the way and after I thought about it some more, the two filters from the last interval did not show anything concerning, so I stuck it out to the full interval.

This is the 2nd interval with HPL PCEO 5w20 for a total of almost 20,000 miles of HPL use. Currently have HPL Euro 5w30 in for the next ~10k.
PP used for the previous 40,000 miles (~1200hrs) prior to HPL.

2019 Ram 5.7, 76161 miles (~2363 hrs)
Filter in use for 9709 miles (~262 hrs)

Not a bunch of pics as I was focused on the media and what may be in it. I strained the oil from the can through a coffee filter, nothing to note from that. Media was wrapped in towels for a while to wick out as much as possible. Little flecks in each pleat again. I'd argue that there are fewer flecks in this filter than in the last filter.

I measured the mesh for fun and got .010" and .012" depending on which orientation I measured.

 

[loneryder]

Tiny filter for a big engine!

 

[OilyOrangutan]

Sooooooo much glue....

 

[racer12306]

Tiny filter for a big engine!

You're right. Pretty sure the 6.4s use the FE2 size. I put a PH2 on it and took a good assessment of if I was happy with the fitment. There was a wire harness that would have been rubbing on the filter 100% of the time and I wasn't a fan of that.

Even though it's small, it seems to be doing the job just fine. Hard to argue with that.

 

[racer12306]

Sooooooo much glue....

The Amsoil filters I've cut open was the same.

Amsoil EA15K50 Cut Open 4636 miles - HPL PCMO

First run of HPL Oil changed at 56,305 miles Filter changed at 60941 miles I strained the oil left in the can through a coffee filter. Filter element is currently wrapped with a second wrapping paper towels. Found a couple interesting pieces. They're pretty hard and tricky to get a picture of.

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Amsoil EA15K50 Cut Open 5511miles - HPL PCMO

This is from the second half of my first 10,000 miles with HPL PCMO 5w20 Filter in use 5511 miles. Not as many pics as my last filter, the general construction looked fine. Wrapped with paper towels for 3 days (changed towels each day) Strained remaining oil from the can through a coffee...

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[OilyOrangutan]

The Amsoil filters I've cut open was the same.

Amsoil EA15K50 Cut Open 4636 miles - HPL PCMO

First run of HPL Oil changed at 56,305 miles Filter changed at 60941 miles I strained the oil left in the can through a coffee filter. Filter element is currently wrapped with a second wrapping paper towels. Found a couple interesting pieces. They're pretty hard and tricky to get a picture of.

bobistheoilguy.com

Amsoil EA15K50 Cut Open 5511miles - HPL PCMO

This is from the second half of my first 10,000 miles with HPL PCMO 5w20 Filter in use 5511 miles. Not as many pics as my last filter, the general construction looked fine. Wrapped with paper towels for 3 days (changed towels each day) Strained remaining oil from the can through a coffee...

bobistheoilguy.com

I have an Amsoil EA15k09 on my Prius Prime right now... Guess I'll see in a few more months. It was my first run of Amsoil and their filter.

 

[53' Stude]

This is from a whole interval, I meant to do a mid-interval filter change but a vacation got in the way and after I thought about it some more, the two filters from the last interval did not show anything concerning, so I stuck it out to the full interval.

This is the 2nd interval with HPL PCEO 5w20 for a total of almost 20,000 miles of HPL use. Currently have HPL Euro 5w30 in for the next ~10k.
PP used for the previous 40,000 miles (~1200hrs) prior to HPL.

2019 Ram 5.7, 76161 miles (~2363 hrs)
Filter in use for 9709 miles (~262 hrs)

Not a bunch of pics as I was focused on the media and what may be in it. I strained the oil from the can through a coffee filter, nothing to note from that. Media was wrapped in towels for a while to wick out as much as possible. Little flecks in each pleat again. I'd argue that there are fewer flecks in this filter than in the last filter.

I measured the mesh for fun and got .010" and .012" depending on which orientation I measured.

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Very nice cut and post and write up. Awesome photos. I see carbon bits. Looks good

 

[DirectRejection]

Thank you for your detailed OP, racer12306.
The pics are a great resource.

 

[fantastic]

Great run on the Ram! Not real loaded but the debris is noticeable. They could do a better glue job on this premium filter though.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Yeah, someone needs to hire a new glue machine operator/tuner.

 

[4WD]

Always used 10575 in place of those …
The (very fine) pics enforce what I have been saying about judging louvers with a fully assembled filter … Most are plenty open …

 

[ZeeOSix]

The (very fine) pics enforce what I have been saying about judging louvers with a fully assembled filter … Most are plenty open …

Can tell by looking down the center tube at the right angle with a good LED flashlight if they are opened well or not. Can even get a decent shot with a cell phone camera on flash if done right. Gotta determine if open enough for the user before it goes on, not after it's been used.

 

[OVERKILL]

Can tell by looking down the center tube at the right angle with a good LED flashlight if they are opened well or not. Can even get a decent shot with a cell phone camera on flash if done right. Gotta determine if open enough for the user before it goes on, not after it's been used.

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[We're Metals]

Looks like a good filter... but a ugly filter...

Thanks for the time to share the pics. Nothing stands out here.

 

[OLEJOE]

You're right. Pretty sure the 6.4s use the FE2 size. I put a PH2 on it and took a good assessment of if I was happy with the fitment. There was a wire harness that would have been rubbing on the filter 100% of the time and I wasn't a fan of that.

Even though it's small, it seems to be doing the job just fine. Hard to argue with that.

That would be a negative on the 6.4’s using the larger filter. The XG 2 will fit on some but not all. Ram specs the 10060 size.

 

[OVERKILL]

You're right. Pretty sure the 6.4s use the FE2 size. I put a PH2 on it and took a good assessment of if I was happy with the fitment. There was a wire harness that would have been rubbing on the filter 100% of the time and I wasn't a fan of that.

Even though it's small, it seems to be doing the job just fine. Hard to argue with that.

The SRT 6.4's use the bigger filter, not sure about the HD truck ones. This may be the difference between the classic and the DT, since there's only a coolant line for the heat exchanger that's a bit in the way (but doesn't rub) with the XG2 on our 1500, no wiring.

 

[OLEJOE]

On the 6.4 I had in my 22’ 2500 I ran the larger filter a couple of times but it always had a rattle on start up. Stayed silent with the small one. I don’t know if air was being trapped in the filter because the inlet holes were lower than the outside of the filter or not. The filter sits horizontal on those.

 

[53' Stude]

The SRT 6.4's use the bigger filter, not sure about the HD truck ones. This may be the difference between the classic and the DT, since there's only a coolant line for the heat exchanger that's a bit in the way (but doesn't rub) with the XG2 on our 1500, no wiring.

The 6.4 HEMI’s in RAM 2500 pickups spec a WIX 57060 filter. A fat filter won’t clear that cheap plastic guard that helps make a mess when filter is removed.

 

[gfh77665]

Its no where near half used up / full. Its up to a 20K filter (2 x 10K) easy.

 

[Bighorn2500]

Well at least the media’s not going anywhere with that amount of glue on it .

HPL is still doing some cleanup in there.