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Bonuses are great but..... #4632464
01/12/18 02:10 PM
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ZZman Offline OP
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Do you think these will be yearly now by these companies?

How much will stockholders receive in comparison to the workers?


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632472
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no, they will not be an annual thing. I'm also sure that this is more of a PR thing to obscure the news of the store closing.

Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632473
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Yall better watch it! This is almost political in nature. Someone might be offended.

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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: Alfred_B] #4632479
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
no, they will not be an annual thing. I'm also sure that this is more of a PR thing to obscure the news of the store closing.

Are you talking just about Walmart? Because of the corporate tax break, all kinds of companies are able to give bonuses this year. Pretty darn nice thing to do if you ask me. But you think Walmart did it as a "PR" move because they had to close some Sam's Club stores? I don't get that.

Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632482
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
Do you think these will be yearly now by these companies?

How much will stockholders receive in comparison to the workers?


Aren't a fairly decent percentage of workers stockholders as well?


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632488
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Any companies now giving these bonuses. Will they be permanent?

Actually the wealthy own the vast majority of stocks in this country, not middle class workers.


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632489
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What's a bonus?


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632491
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What difference does it make how much the stockholders will receive? They invested in the company expecting a return on their investment. Some investments make money and some don't, so there is no guarantee that an investment will pay a return. That is a gamble all investors take. If you want to invest your $$ in the market, buy a S&P 500 index mutual fund. Over the years, the unmanaged funds have done better than the managed funds.

Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632493
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Suffice it to say, if that other person had won none of these people would be getting any bonus, period, permanent or otherwise.

Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: Yah-Tah-Hey] #4632495
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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
What difference does it make how much the stockholders will receive? They invested in the company expecting a return on their investment. Some investments make money and some don't, so there is no guarantee that an investment will pay a return. That is a gamble all investors take. If you want to invest your $$ in the market, buy a S&P 500 index mutual fund. Over the years, the unmanaged funds have done better than the managed funds.


It makes a difference because the workers are doing the work. Day in and day out. Investors only put up money and no sweat equity. It should at least be a 50/50 split shouldn't it?


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: andrewg] #4632497
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Actually no. Only about 55% of Americans own stock. Of that the top 10% own about 80% of the stocks.

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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: Rock_Hudstone] #4632498
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Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone

Suffice it to say, if that other person had won none of these people would be getting any bonus, period, permanent or otherwise.


Boom there it is, every thread. I've been getting bonuses for 12 years. But you're right, the world would have ended.


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: ZZman] #4632507
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
What difference does it make how much the stockholders will receive? They invested in the company expecting a return on their investment. Some investments make money and some don't, so there is no guarantee that an investment will pay a return. That is a gamble all investors take. If you want to invest your $$ in the market, buy a S&P 500 index mutual fund. Over the years, the unmanaged funds have done better than the managed funds.


It makes a difference because the workers are doing the work. Day in and day out. Investors only put up money and no sweat equity. It should at least be a 50/50 split shouldn't it?
.What you are trying to say is that you are not adequately compensated for the service you provide your employer. That can be remedied by acquiring skills that companies pay big $$ to obtain.

Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: Rock_Hudstone] #4632521
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Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone

Suffice it to say, if that other person had won none of these people would be getting any bonus, period, permanent or otherwise.


Not sufficient. It's a gamble. If jobs aren't created and trickle-down economics doesn't work, these bonuses will be paid back, and then some, in extra taxes. Lowering he corporate tax rate THAT much can bring back work, but that's not to say us poor peons will be the beneficiaries of any additional corporate profits.

I'll believe I've benefited when I average my tax returns over the next 10 years.


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Re: Bonuses are great but..... [Re: Yah-Tah-Hey] #4632536
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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
What you are trying to say is that you are not adequately compensated for the service you provide your employer. That can be remedied by acquiring skills that companies pay big $$ to obtain.


Not at all. I think my compensation is reasonable. I think others are far too little and far too much.... smile


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