Im really impressed with Taylor Swift gives out 55 million in bonuses at the end of her tour

[alarmguy]

A major reason behind bonuses, especially end-of-year or "Christmas" bonuses is for one reason - reducing NET profit. There's always a benefit to the company !
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Not really, if it's a publicly traded company the profit goes to the share holders. If its a privately held company the profit goes to the principle/owners of the company.
A company bonus is a reward to build goodwill and loyalty.

In Taylor Swifts case, the money she gave out in bonuses were not her employees, they were employees of other companies. Much like giving a waitress a tip in a restaurant. A show of appreciation. Its something so in here dont seem to know.

Being they are now done with the Taylor Swift tour, if they are lucky the companies those workers work for now have them placed doing work on some other project.

 

[Hall]

I've never worked for a profitable company in my career.

Thank their accountants and tax attorneys

 

[JHZR2]

Let's be clear, Taylor Swift gave out roughly 55 million dollars who were not employees of hers but worked for companies on her tour.

no kidding. Is this a joke?!? Of course they may not be employees of hers. But let’s also be clear. Why are they working? What is the reason that they were doing what they were? Oh that’s right, the TS tour.

That 55 million was a significant gift from her income which is estimated at 340 million on the tour.

this was supposed to be the only thing. You say it is impressive. I say it isn’t given how much that she’s making. As I’ve said for the umpteenth time, that doesn’t mean that it’s not a wonderful move and a nice gift, good example. It just doesn’t impress me based upon percentages. How many times do I have to say it?

You keep insinuating that these are employees of Taylor Swift, it's a false statement.

not really. They are de facto employees because if TS wasn’t touring they wouldn’t be employed working on the tour. They hopefully would be employed doing something else… Big difference and your semantic games don’t help. Why are these people working again? Remind me for who and what theyre doing work for…

Oh, and those soup kitchens that were so grateful to her? yeah, any money she gave them buries Jeffs Gift as far as percentage of income. How does that figure into the being part of her tour?

that’s not what you were impressed about in your OP. If you want to make the case that she makes nice humanitarian donations when she goes around, I’d agree. But it’s NOT the premise of the OP or your constant debating.

Her one BILLION dollar tour as you refer to almost sounds like you are discrediting a billion dollars in economic activity. DO you feel the same about Amazon, all their employees, support structures ect over a million secondary jobs?

You are the one who added the red herring about Bezos and Amazon. Again, like the soup kitchens, if you want to make another thread about nice humanitarian moves, do it and we can discuss that. But don’t throw red herrings into the discussion and then compare apples to oranges. It’s not helping your case. Your OP was about being impressed about her gifts. Not bezos, not soup kitchens. This is just laughable.

Jeff Bezo gave almost half of one days income to the people of Maui, who are customers of his and some self promotion of his company. Jeff makes approx $175 million a day. I am sure you know, Amazon sells more than that and profits way more that that directly "off the backs" of the people of Hawaii. Im curious who notified the press of this gift/ and lets face it, that money doesnt come from Jeffs compensation package.

seriously with the endless red herring?

Recall that you’re comparing apples to oranges as TS is the specific reason for all the peoples’ employment, regardless of who they work for. JB may donate for whatever reason he wishes.

So we can do thirty seconds of googling and find out more. Hawaii only has about 1.4M people, and only about 70 people per 100k work for Amazon. So about 1000 people in Hawaii work for Amazon. Not a huge practice. Maui is the third most populated island, falling far behind others with 144k people. So we can guess that Maui might have 100 amazon employees

So if you want to keep convoluting things, Bezos is donating about $1M per employee to Maui (of course they’re not getting it). But to say that there’s a huge population or business presence there, which was my point, is absolutely the case. You set up this red herring to compare two different things. And the numbers sure look like Maui isn’t a major money maker. PR? Sure. Humanitarian donation? I’d guess. Nice move? Yes. Different than TS? Yup.

I have no problem with either contribution by the way but it's evident in here not just to me but others your bias? (lack of a better word)

I have no problem with either, either. Not sure what point you’re trying to make about bias. Swift and Besos’ donations were different for the reasons, purposes, and linkages. Apples to oranges.

And I truly have no bias. As was said my many I don’t care for her politics, and probably those of most of her fans, but that’s not a discussion for this board or relevant to the whole thing. My lack of being impressed, again, ad nauseam was based upon numbers and percentages. I don’t need to be impressed, and I can still recognize that it’s a nice thing to do. I don’t get why this is difficult to comprehend.

 

[JHZR2]

In Taylor Swifts case, the money she gave out in bonuses were not her employees, they were employees of other companies. Much like giving a waitress a tip in a restaurant. A show of appreciation. Its something so in here dont seem to know.

again a dig at my position. And your misunderstanding that I do indeed recognize that they are not all HER employees.

I agree TS move is like a tip. That we agree. Which is why it’s different than the other scenario you brought up.

Hopefully we can end this ridiculous waste of time.

 

[alarmguy]

again a dig at my position. And your misunderstanding that I do indeed recognize that they are not all HER employees.

I agree TS move is like a tip. That we agree. Which is why it’s different than the other scenario you brought up.

Hopefully we can end this ridiculous waste of time.

One thing we can agree on is we have no interest in what we have to say to each other.
So it’s ended or it will never end.

Back to my OP which most people agree Taylor Swift did a great thing.
Bizarre talking about Amazon employees who aren’t getting any of Jeff’s contribution.

 

[John105]

For my first full-time job, my first day was spent at new employee orientation. My second day was at this big company event at a local convention center. But to encourage attendance, that was where company bonuses (all physical checks) were handed out at the end of the day. I do believe someone who couldn't attend the event could have picked up the bonus later at the office. I was thinking maybe as a new hire I might have a prorated bonus (maybe a month's worth), but no. At that point I hadn't even met any of my new coworkers other than the ones I met during my interview.

At one job, I remember getting a bonus that seemed smaller than I expected. A few days later I looked at my bank account balance one day and found a direct deposit for an incremental amount. I thought it might be some sort of correction. I didn't go crazy and spend it though. In a few days I got an email from payroll that some employees got an inadvertent bonus payment and the next day I found it was clawed back. Pretty soon after that payroll specialist was no longer there, and there was no announcement of why.

As for bonuses, they're owed in my state even for someone fired. It might be complicated though since they're often based on company performance that might be determined after someone is gone.

My last co, I noticed my pay went up and I was worried. I felt they were testing me. Gross pay was $600+ more. If it were a raise or bonus, I would have been informed. I
Said that’s their problem. Then I said no, I gotta tell them. Told my boss and she said oh you got an adjustment. HR looks at a person’s skills and education and adjusts if needed.

Wow. This showed how lowly the recruiter brought me in at. My coworker told me she got a sign on and relo package. I was young and naive.

That co let us go to conferences and training, but would not let me ship a package UPS without director approval.

My current co gave me a UPS campuship acct day 1 and I can even ship to Canada and bill the customs duties to the acct. but no conferences nor training

 

[JHZR2]

One thing we can agree on is we have no interest in what we have to say to each other.
So it’s ended or it will never end.

Back to my OP which most people agree Taylor Swift did a great thing.
Bizarre talking about Amazon employees who aren’t getting any of Jeff’s contribution.

Yet then you make these insane attempts at connecting dots that aren’t there.

Did I not just say they weren’t getting the money? Of course I did. I was making the point because you insisted that Hawaii, and Maui in particular, is a compelling factor in Bezos’ fortune. For which you were disproven.

Oh yeah, I said exactly that.

So if you want to keep convoluting things, Bezos is donating about $1M per employee to Maui (of course they’re not getting it). But to say that there’s a huge population or business presence there, which was my point, is absolutely the case.

So yet again you’re stretching to make points and “trap” (your terms) folks in situations only you imagine up. My language was specific and based upon the estimate of Amazon employees that may be on Maui. “Per employee to Maui” the word “to” is important here. I’m done. I just dont get it. We can agree that donations are nice. Enough.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Maybe Taylor Swift should just give every last dollar she makes to her fans. Randomly and at concerts. Oprah "Look under your seat.. YOU get a car! And YOU get a car! And YOU get a car!" style.

Anything less than that.. does she really care?

Carry on.

 

[John105]

Maybe Taylor Swift should just give every last dollar she makes to her fans. Randomly and at concerts. Oprah "Look under your seat.. YOU get a car! And YOU get a car! And YOU get a car!" style.

Anything less than that.. does she really care?

Carry on.

You know what’s funny about that concept? I have this theory it’s why today so many 40-50 yo live with their parents. In my time it was a source of shame, although, understandable that in NYC and LI, a person could be 30, have a decent job, and not be able to afford an apartment. But they had every intention of saving and moving out. Today it’s the “you get a car” conundrum. Just wait for the entire house to be passed down.