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#4544510 - 10/15/17 10:36 PM Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car
wolf_06 Offline


Registered: 06/11/12
Posts: 491
Loc: Atlantic, Canada
Hi folks,

I spotted a nice 2015 Camry with the 2.5, 45,000 km on it. I wanted to go for a Hyundai accent or elantra 2017, but the Camry is tempting.

Price is no issue for this, I want reliable and easy access to replacement parts.

Thank you
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#4544516 - 10/15/17 10:43 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
Dave424 Offline


Registered: 04/08/07
Posts: 171
Loc: California
I would go for the Camry. A Toyota port injected engine and a conventional 6 speed A/T combo will go for many miles.

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#4544520 - 10/15/17 10:54 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
TheLoneRanger Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1506
Loc: Southeast United States
I too would go with the Toyota. Hyundai has a 100K mile warranty
for a reason...
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#4544523 - 10/15/17 11:00 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2767
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: wolf_06
Hi folks,

I spotted a nice 2015 Camry with the 2.5, 45,000 km on it. I wanted to go for a Hyundai accent or elantra 2017, but the Camry is tempting.

Price is no issue for this, I want reliable and easy access to replacement parts.

Thank you


But gee if you half maintain the Camry you're only going to get about another 255K out of it!
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#4544525 - 10/15/17 11:03 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: TheLoneRanger]
wolf_06 Offline


Registered: 06/11/12
Posts: 491
Loc: Atlantic, Canada
I plan to get rid of my cruze, I'm on the third thermostat, it started to rust in the rear fenders, and I need 4 new winter tires, which I don't want to buy for this car anymore since I want to get rid of it, also the intake manifold is messed up, there is a linkage that came off loose from a solenoid that opens the top of the intake when it's cold I guess, kind of choke, apparently I need the whole intake to be replaced, which I'm not going to do
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#4544533 - 10/15/17 11:18 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2049
Loc: socal
Camry
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#4544545 - 10/15/17 11:36 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
andrewp1998 Offline


Registered: 10/18/08
Posts: 853
Loc: MA USA
any toyota is good
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#4544549 - 10/15/17 11:44 PM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10129
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
The Camry might not be the most fun, but they’re definitely boringly reliable.
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#4544558 - 10/16/17 12:21 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
These newer cars with their adjustable valve timing via solenoid controlled camshaft phasers is what would give me pause to selecting a car based on reliability. The other issue are these very long timing chains that need chain tensioners to keep the chain from skipping teeth on the cam sprockets. I just got though watching a video about a 2011 Chevy Equinox that had been to four different dealers with lots of parts thrown at it and still nobody could figure out why the engine kept shutting off while under light throttle. Finally it was determined that the timing chain had skipped two teeth on one of the intake camshafts.

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#4544567 - 10/16/17 12:54 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
boom10ful Offline


Registered: 01/17/17
Posts: 128
Loc: California
Either a Hyundai, Honda, or Toyota. OEM parts for Hyundais are very cheap and the cars are reliable regardless of what others say. Wouldn't go with a Nissan, they're the equivalent to a Chrysler.

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#4544568 - 10/16/17 12:55 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: barkingspider]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1984
Loc: US-WA
Originally Posted By: barkingspider
Camry

Enough said.
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#4544575 - 10/16/17 01:26 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
Cdn17Sport6MT Offline


Registered: 09/30/17
Posts: 19
Loc: Vancouver, BC Canada
I like Camry's and Toyota products a lot. There are 3 in my extended household!

But please check out Toyota Nation, first, and I refer you to the lockup clutch torque converter issue on the model year 2012 plus Camry's, i.e. the 2.5 litre 4 cylinders ones. The automatic transaxles are different between the 2.5 I4, and the 3.5 litre V6, and the former is less durable. When the vehicle is driven in normal, non-sport mode, the torque converter goes into an operating mode that repeatedly shuttles the converter clutch from locked to unlocked, and back again many times... somehow to supplement the 6 speeds of the 'box, in effectively giving the transaxle another drive gear. It is a "partially locked" converter clutch. They apparently do a software mod... to lessen this tendency, but once the friction and wear materials get introduced into the 'box, well, the end is in sight.

When driving the car, it feels like the vehicle is going over slightly rough pavement... that is the lock/ un-lock shudder and feel. This apparently has not been rectified 'till the '18 model, which has a different transaxle.

The only fix, on the four cylinder model, is to drive in Sport mode... and to have done this from the get-go.... i.e. from day one... or go after the V6 powered model, that has the superior durability transaxle.
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#4544600 - 10/16/17 03:48 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
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Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4329
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
There is a huge reason the Toyota Camry is a consistent top seller.
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#4544601 - 10/16/17 03:52 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
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Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10028
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
[Quote-Cdn17Sport6MT]: When driving the car, it feels like the vehicle is going over slightly rough pavement... that is the lock/ un-lock shudder and feel. This apparently has not been rectified 'till the '18 model, which has a different transaxle.

The only fix, on the four cylinder model, is to drive in Sport mode... and to have done this from the get-go.... i.e. from day one... or go after the V6 powered model, that has the superior durability transaxle.
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Yes, Toyota did have some issues with their automatic trannys(as did/does the whole industry). I did have 2 friends that had their trannys replaced however, they were still under warranty. Then these folks drove the car to a very long life or are still driving the car and have passed it onto their children. Statistically, Toyota's are very reliable as I mention below.

I have introduced many folks to Camry's from the other brands they were driving. They all had issues with their current brands and like wolf_06, wanted something that was easy maintenance/longevity.

When they bought Camry's(new or used) they never looked back. They all pushed their Camry's to beyond 250K miles and just drove them on & on. And the Camry's don't seem to rust as fast as other brands. Minimal rust even after 15 yrs in the salt belt of NY State.


Edited by Char Baby (10/16/17 04:03 AM)
Edit Reason: additional information
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#4544622 - 10/16/17 04:59 AM Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06]
Claud Offline


Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 593
Loc: Margate England
Of all modern cars Hyundai seem to be the easiest to work on. If you do your own maintenance that may be a factor.

With proper maintenance you should see 200k+ miles on most cars before wear becomes an issue. On reputation the Toyota is likely to be more reliable. But there are owners of cars with a great reliability reputation that regret the day they bought their money pit, just as there are owners of cars with poor reputations who enjoy unfailing reliability. There always will be exceptions.

Both a cars which few owners regret buying. perhaps one might have an advantage such as a larger trunk or whatever, or a dealer who is on your doorstep, which could sway your decision.

Claud.

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