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Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car #4544510
10/15/17 10:36 PM
10/15/17 10:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 524
Atlantic, Canada
wolf_06 Offline OP
wolf_06  Offline OP
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Atlantic, Canada
Hi folks,

I spotted a nice 2015 Camry with the 2.5, 45,000 km on it. I wanted to go for a Hyundai accent or elantra 2017, but the Camry is tempting.

Price is no issue for this, I want reliable and easy access to replacement parts.

Thank you


2011 Chevy Cruze 1.8L 6AT
Castrol Magnatec syn blend 5w30, NAPA filter.
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544516
10/15/17 10:43 PM
10/15/17 10:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 171
California
Dave424 Offline
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California
I would go for the Camry. A Toyota port injected engine and a conventional 6 speed A/T combo will go for many miles.

Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544520
10/15/17 10:54 PM
10/15/17 10:54 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,510
Southeast United States
TheLoneRanger Offline
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Southeast United States
I too would go with the Toyota. Hyundai has a 100K mile warranty
for a reason...


Some days you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you.....
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544523
10/15/17 11:00 PM
10/15/17 11:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,218
Wet side WA
JohnnyJohnson Offline
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Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: wolf_06
Hi folks,

I spotted a nice 2015 Camry with the 2.5, 45,000 km on it. I wanted to go for a Hyundai accent or elantra 2017, but the Camry is tempting.

Price is no issue for this, I want reliable and easy access to replacement parts.

Thank you


But gee if you half maintain the Camry you're only going to get about another 255K out of it!


2004 Corolla 124786
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: TheLoneRanger] #4544525
10/15/17 11:03 PM
10/15/17 11:03 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 524
Atlantic, Canada
wolf_06 Offline OP
wolf_06  Offline OP
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Posts: 524
Atlantic, Canada
I plan to get rid of my cruze, I'm on the third thermostat, it started to rust in the rear fenders, and I need 4 new winter tires, which I don't want to buy for this car anymore since I want to get rid of it, also the intake manifold is messed up, there is a linkage that came off loose from a solenoid that opens the top of the intake when it's cold I guess, kind of choke, apparently I need the whole intake to be replaced, which I'm not going to do


2011 Chevy Cruze 1.8L 6AT
Castrol Magnatec syn blend 5w30, NAPA filter.
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544533
10/15/17 11:18 PM
10/15/17 11:18 PM
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socal
barkingspider Offline
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socal
Camry


06 Cadillac Escalade Ext
17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
05 Toyota Camry (daughter)
11 GMC Canyon off-road (daily)
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544545
10/15/17 11:36 PM
10/15/17 11:36 PM
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Posts: 867
MA USA
andrewp1998 Offline
andrewp1998  Offline
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MA USA
any toyota is good


2001 Honda civic HX vtecE- 5 spd,232k+
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544549
10/15/17 11:44 PM
10/15/17 11:44 PM
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Posts: 10,699
Phoenix, AZ
Nick1994 Offline
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Phoenix, AZ
The Camry might not be the most fun, but they’re definitely boringly reliable.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 84k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544558
10/16/17 12:21 AM
10/16/17 12:21 AM
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Posts: 17,501
Clovis, CA
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Clovis, CA
These newer cars with their adjustable valve timing via solenoid controlled camshaft phasers is what would give me pause to selecting a car based on reliability. The other issue are these very long timing chains that need chain tensioners to keep the chain from skipping teeth on the cam sprockets. I just got though watching a video about a 2011 Chevy Equinox that had been to four different dealers with lots of parts thrown at it and still nobody could figure out why the engine kept shutting off while under light throttle. Finally it was determined that the timing chain had skipped two teeth on one of the intake camshafts.

Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544567
10/16/17 12:54 AM
10/16/17 12:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 138
California
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California
Either a Hyundai, Honda, or Toyota. OEM parts for Hyundais are very cheap and the cars are reliable regardless of what others say. Wouldn't go with a Nissan, they're the equivalent to a Chrysler.

Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: barkingspider] #4544568
10/16/17 12:55 AM
10/16/17 12:55 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,097
US-WA
Dyusik Offline
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US-WA
Originally Posted By: barkingspider
Camry

Enough said.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 100K Napa 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 33k PP MIX, NG7047
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544575
10/16/17 01:26 AM
10/16/17 01:26 AM
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Vancouver, BC Canada
Cdn17Sport6MT Offline
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Vancouver, BC Canada
I like Camry's and Toyota products a lot. There are 3 in my extended household!

But please check out Toyota Nation, first, and I refer you to the lockup clutch torque converter issue on the model year 2012 plus Camry's, i.e. the 2.5 litre 4 cylinders ones. The automatic transaxles are different between the 2.5 I4, and the 3.5 litre V6, and the former is less durable. When the vehicle is driven in normal, non-sport mode, the torque converter goes into an operating mode that repeatedly shuttles the converter clutch from locked to unlocked, and back again many times... somehow to supplement the 6 speeds of the 'box, in effectively giving the transaxle another drive gear. It is a "partially locked" converter clutch. They apparently do a software mod... to lessen this tendency, but once the friction and wear materials get introduced into the 'box, well, the end is in sight.

When driving the car, it feels like the vehicle is going over slightly rough pavement... that is the lock/ un-lock shudder and feel. This apparently has not been rectified 'till the '18 model, which has a different transaxle.

The only fix, on the four cylinder model, is to drive in Sport mode... and to have done this from the get-go.... i.e. from day one... or go after the V6 powered model, that has the superior durability transaxle.


Mazda6 GX (Sport), 6MT, 2017
Moto Guzzi T5 850 NT, 1985
Honda Civic EX 2dr, A/T, 1997
Toyota Camry CE, 5MT, 1999
VW (Type2) Kombi, 4MT, 1979
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544600
10/16/17 03:48 AM
10/16/17 03:48 AM
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Soviet State of Washington
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Soviet State of Washington
There is a huge reason the Toyota Camry is a consistent top seller.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544601
10/16/17 03:52 AM
10/16/17 03:52 AM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,279
ROCHESTER, NY
Char Baby Online content
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ROCHESTER, NY
[Quote-Cdn17Sport6MT]: When driving the car, it feels like the vehicle is going over slightly rough pavement... that is the lock/ un-lock shudder and feel. This apparently has not been rectified 'till the '18 model, which has a different transaxle.

The only fix, on the four cylinder model, is to drive in Sport mode... and to have done this from the get-go.... i.e. from day one... or go after the V6 powered model, that has the superior durability transaxle.
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Yes, Toyota did have some issues with their automatic trannys(as did/does the whole industry). I did have 2 friends that had their trannys replaced however, they were still under warranty. Then these folks drove the car to a very long life or are still driving the car and have passed it onto their children. Statistically, Toyota's are very reliable as I mention below.

I have introduced many folks to Camry's from the other brands they were driving. They all had issues with their current brands and like wolf_06, wanted something that was easy maintenance/longevity.

When they bought Camry's(new or used) they never looked back. They all pushed their Camry's to beyond 250K miles and just drove them on & on. And the Camry's don't seem to rust as fast as other brands. Minimal rust even after 15 yrs in the salt belt of NY State.

Last edited by Char Baby; 10/16/17 04:03 AM. Reason: additional information

"Retired"
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'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-purchased "NEW"
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV
'15 Honda Civic LX(17K)
Re: Looking for a reliable and easy maintenance car [Re: wolf_06] #4544622
10/16/17 04:59 AM
10/16/17 04:59 AM
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Posts: 593
Margate England
Claud Offline
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Margate England
Of all modern cars Hyundai seem to be the easiest to work on. If you do your own maintenance that may be a factor.

With proper maintenance you should see 200k+ miles on most cars before wear becomes an issue. On reputation the Toyota is likely to be more reliable. But there are owners of cars with a great reliability reputation that regret the day they bought their money pit, just as there are owners of cars with poor reputations who enjoy unfailing reliability. There always will be exceptions.

Both a cars which few owners regret buying. perhaps one might have an advantage such as a larger trunk or whatever, or a dealer who is on your doorstep, which could sway your decision.

Claud.

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