Recent Topics
Separating toddlers from their parents?
by fdcg27
06/19/18 08:50 PM
gm 8.6 truetrac
by Spitter
06/19/18 08:45 PM
New addition to my garage: 2000 Corvette FRC
by MrHorspwer
06/19/18 08:34 PM
Rockauto 5% off
by Spitter
06/19/18 08:32 PM
fumoto oil valve
by Santo
06/19/18 08:19 PM
Grand solar minimum...
by ridgerunner
06/19/18 07:57 PM
Pentofrost coolant $10 Autozone
by PD001
06/19/18 07:49 PM
The things you find cleaning Garage 30+ btls slob
by digger327
06/19/18 07:20 PM
Castrol GTX Magantec 0w20 - 6 pack $21.99 - Amazon
by 04SE
06/19/18 07:07 PM
Havoline Pro DS 5w20 $3.15/quart - Amazon
by 04SE
06/19/18 07:06 PM
Needing New Dipstick
by Geauxtiger
06/19/18 05:11 PM
'98 Mercedes E300TD Rotella T5 10W-30 5k miles
by KenO
06/19/18 04:35 PM
Premium guard oil filters
by Jaha24k
06/19/18 04:09 PM
76 super motor oil- synthetic blend 5w-30
by Jaha24k
06/19/18 04:07 PM
Who makes the Mopar 5038041AA filter?
by Quattro Pete
06/19/18 03:55 PM
Ruger Mini-14, yay or nay?
by 28oz
06/19/18 03:51 PM
USPS long long delivery to BlackStone Labs
by Pajero
06/19/18 02:58 PM
House A.c. vent leaking water
by motor_oil_madman
06/19/18 02:55 PM
"synthetic" gear oil and LS additive?
by nthach
06/19/18 01:54 PM
Supertech wix ST8 5514 miles
by jakewells
06/19/18 01:38 PM
Newest Members
Santo, aligoodn, memyself, MichiganKid419, kaphouston
65273 Registered Users
Who's Online
105 registered (addyguy, 2002 Maxima SE, AITG, Aero540T, 2015_PSD, 9050lx, 15 invisible), 1578 Guests and 30 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65273 Members
67 Forums
285621 Topics
4766564 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#4504686 - 09/01/17 05:42 PM Best filter
Timmer Offline


Registered: 01/15/16
Posts: 10
Loc: Ga
Ok, Now I'm confused after reading about filters....Not sure why but I have always heard that you should NEVER buy a Fram oil filter, maybe some time in the past one burst and cooked a motor and they got a bad rep, really not sure how that got started but now I see that you guys think the Fram Ultra is the best......I have been using Mobil 1 M206 for my 5.3 Chevy pickup because it's a longer than stock filter and I can always find one.....I have also bought a Wix XP in the longer size because they have a full synthetic media but from reading another post about Wix X P vs M1 it said the Wix is only 50% efficient at 30 microns so I would really like to find out number one, how Fram got such a bad reputation and number two, is the Fram Ultra now the best on the market?......Great forum, have learned a lot from being here a short time.....Thanks!

Top
#4504700 - 09/01/17 05:54 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17770
Loc: PNW
The XP is rated (per WIX) 50% @ 20 microns, not 30 microns.

Yes, hard to best the Fram Ultra in many regards (construction, performance, price, availability, ect). Many here will say the same.

There are other good filters on the market too, so your own research will have to determine what you choose for whatever reason. Otherwise if someone says you should use an Ultra they will be accused of being a shill. wink

Top
#4504704 - 09/01/17 05:57 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
SirTanon Online   content


Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 2152
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona - USA
Timmer, the Fram orange can used to catch a lot of flack for its perceived problems, but that was some time ago. They've really cleaned up their act, and stepped up their quality.

Nowadays, it's extremely hard to do better than the Fram Ultra, whether in the same price range, or more.
_________________________
2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 257,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 55,000mi

Top
#4504706 - 09/01/17 06:01 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
Timo325 Offline


Registered: 08/31/14
Posts: 338
Loc: AL,NC,TX,Germany,Korea,Italy
Timmer,

Keep in mind that the oil you use and what air filter you use is more important than oil filter.

Most oil filters I'm ok with, some filter better than others. The most important thing (imo) is that its integrity stays intact throughout your OFI.

Car51, and many others post C&P's of new and used filters. Look at how they are built, Wire/mesh backing? Louvers/openings? media type? Gaps in media? Tears? Glue inconsistent?

Search Jay Buckley for information related to FRAM's. I believe ISO 4548-12 is an excellent standard for testing.

Others here can tell you about the synthetic media on the ultra, and how great they are for extended OCI's/OFI's.

Most filters do the job just fine..



Edited by Timo325 (09/01/17 06:06 PM)
_________________________
2011 Odyssey Touring Elite 80k mi. M1 EP, 0W-20, FU
2008 Mustang GT 81k mi. Edge EP (Gold) 5W-20, FU


Top
#4504709 - 09/01/17 06:03 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
toneydoc Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 1693
Loc: War Eagle
Welcome to the forum
welcome

There probably is not a "best" filter.

The filter you select can be based on many factors to include your oil change interval, type of filter media you want, if you want to run the filter for 2 oil changes, how easy it is for you to get the filter, and the amount of money you are willing to spend for the filter. There are probably several other factors you may consider as well.

I suggest you look at some of the cut open filters that have been posted here for construction info. Then investigate filtration information if that is what you are interested in. There are many folks here that have tremendous knowledge of filters.

Ultimately you decide. Again, there is probably not a best. There are many good ones made these days.

Enjoy your reading and the hunt. And good luck.
_________________________
1994 Jeep 158k Mobil 5000 5w30
2014 Camry 32k QS AD 5w30
2018 Jeep Cherokee 1k factory fill
2014 HD Ultra 35k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 35k PP 5w20

Top
#4504739 - 09/01/17 06:35 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Originally Posted By: Timmer
Ok, Now I'm confused after reading about filters....Not sure why but I have always heard that you should NEVER buy a Fram oil filter, maybe some time in the past one burst and cooked a motor and they got a bad rep, really not sure how that got started but now I see that you guys think the Fram Ultra is the best......I have been using Mobil 1 M206 for my 5.3 Chevy pickup because it's a longer than stock filter and I can always find one.....I have also bought a Wix XP in the longer size because they have a full synthetic media but from reading another post about Wix X P vs M1 it said the Wix is only 50% efficient at 30 microns so I would really like to find out number one, how Fram got such a bad reputation and number two, is the Fram Ultra now the best on the market?......Great forum, have learned a lot from being here a short time.....Thanks!


Years ago the basic Fram extra guard had a bad habit of falling apart internally so at best it was bypassing and not filtering and at worst you got bits and pieces of filter in your oil. This is no longer the case.

That M1 filter is good, but imo overpriced. It only has a semisynthetic media. The Fram Ultra is a better value and a better filter. Synthetic wire backed media, nice silicone rubber ADBV, 20 micron filtering and can be had for $9 at Walmart.

Read up on it.
_________________________
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30

Top
#4504747 - 09/01/17 06:40 PM Re: Best filter [Re: ZeeOSix]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2849
Loc: california
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The XP is rated (per WIX) 50% @ 20 microns, not 30 microns.

Yes, hard to best the Fram Ultra in many regards (construction, performance, price, availability, ect). Many here will say the same.

There are other good filters on the market too, so your own research will have to determine what you choose for whatever reason. Otherwise if someone says you should use an Ultra they will be accused of being a shill. wink


You never do this, but try pointing out something on a Fram like an off center adbv and see what happens. Even when there is a clear picture of it.
I think the best filter is a Frantz.

Top
#4504750 - 09/01/17 06:43 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Motorcraft filters are solid. I ran the fl-500s while I was in warranty
_________________________
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30

Top
#4504771 - 09/01/17 07:05 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
CT8 Online   content


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10942
Loc: Idaho
Define best and regardless what the hive thinks or the article just read prove we will see any difference in the 200,000 to 350,000 miles most people run their passenger vehicles.All that matters is that the filter doesn't fail and the most important filter, the air filter works and the intake plumbing is sealed.
_________________________
"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf

Top
#4504773 - 09/01/17 07:06 PM Re: Best filter [Re: goodtimes]
CT8 Online   content


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10942
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The XP is rated (per WIX) 50% @ 20 microns, not 30 microns.

Yes, hard to best the Fram Ultra in many regards (construction, performance, price, availability, ect). Many here will say the same.

There are other good filters on the market too, so your own research will have to determine what you choose for whatever reason. Otherwise if someone says you should use an Ultra they will be accused of being a shill. wink


You never do this, but try pointing out something on a Fram like an off center adbv and see what happens. Even when there is a clear picture of it.
I think the best filter is a Frantz.
The Frantz in a bypass filter. The best filter for engine life is a full flow filter.
_________________________
"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf

Top
#4504795 - 09/01/17 07:26 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 4203
Loc: Port Orange, Florida
Purolator is the new hated filter due to tears although the tears didn't bother me but that perforated center tube did and I switched to Fram.
You can sometimes find Fram Ultra for $4.50 a filter by the case. They are the best but even the Orange cans have really gotten better. They had oil filters cut apart in
O'riellys the other night and the Fram Orange can looked better than the Wix or Microgard.
_________________________

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Hemi 4x4
2016 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack

Top
#4504818 - 09/01/17 07:52 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Panzerman]
bbhero Offline


Registered: 03/20/15
Posts: 4616
Loc: Virginia
Doggone that's impressive. An 'ol Fram orange can looking better and han those two filters is surprising.
_________________________
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5w30 Federated Auto 4612ex
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."

Top
#4504861 - 09/01/17 08:45 PM Re: Best filter [Re: Timmer]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
I think they got really embarrassed back in the early days of cut and post. 15-20 years ago they got outed as having a [censored] product and word got around. To overcome that they made a filter that even a bitog nazi can love.
_________________________
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30

Top
#4504872 - 09/01/17 08:53 PM ejesauer [Re: Timmer]
ejes Offline


Registered: 01/11/16
Posts: 313
Loc: Kansas
You can get bogged down in all the minutia of what oil, filter, etc is best, but basically a quality oil of your choice, quality filters of your choice (air, oil, etc.), all serviced at appropriate intervals consistent with your driving conditions = a greatly reduced chance in problems. I personally think admitting to yourself what the underlined really is, is the key. There are more quality oil and filter choices than ever in the history of shade-treeing. Enjoy it!

Top
#4504880 - 09/01/17 09:01 PM Re: ejesauer [Re: ejes]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Originally Posted By: ejes
You can get bogged down in all the minutia of what oil, filter, etc is best, but basically a quality oil of your choice, quality filters of your choice (air, oil, etc.), all serviced at appropriate intervals consistent with your driving conditions = a greatly reduced chance in problems. I personally think admitting to yourself what the underlined really is, is the key. There are more quality oil and filter choices than ever in the history of shade-treeing. Enjoy it!


+1

Supertech oil and filter changed at 5k will do the job.
_________________________
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >