Which 5W40 do you like best?

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Originally Posted by skyactiv
And while I don't recommend you do it, I'm running Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 A5 oil in my GTI for a 5K run.


(Too late i.e. I have had PP EURO LX 0W30 in our GOLF R since early November.)
 
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Motul 8100 X Clean 5w40


I noticed this particular Motul earlier this week. (Are those "true" certifications or rather just a "meet and exceeds" list?)
 
Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
There has been the steady 'movement' from 5W40 to 0W40 to 5W30 to 0W30 and even to 0W20 (eg for the 2019 VW GTI).

BUT as of today, if you if you still had to use a 5W40 oil which one would it be? (Which has the most certifications/approvals?)


To answer your question.. I think the most certs is Rotella 5w40

API: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4 ACEA E9, JASO DH-2, Cummins CES 20086; Volvo
VDS-4.5; Detroit Fluid Specification DDC (DFS) 93K222, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, MAN
M3575, JASO MA/ MA2, Allison TES 439, MB-Approval 228.


I appreciate the post and it is my fault ie I should have been more specific ie most certifications which includes 502.
 
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
Originally Posted by krismoriah72
21Rouge said:
There has been the steady 'movement' from 5W40 to 0W40 to 5W30 to 0W30 and even to 0W20 (eg for the 2019 VW GTI).

BUT as of today, if you if you still had to use a 5W40 oil which one would it be? (Which has the most certifications/approvals?)



I appreciate the post and it is my fault ie I should have been more specific ie most certifications which includes 502.


Yes, Rotella T6 5w40 and Mobil Delvac 1 5w40 is All American CK-4 big rig oil and they couldn't care less what the cheese eating Europeans run.
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CI-4 Plus cert is diluted Ca, Zink, Phosphorous and SAPS...gives me the creeps.
 
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Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40, and Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40.

Motul Approvals

BMW
LL-01
MB-Approval
229.5
MB-Approval
226.5
Porsche
A40
Renault
RN0700
under N° RN0700-10-70
Renault
RN0710
under N° RN0710-10-43
VW 502 00 - 505 00
 
I could be wrong but the Motomaster just claims to meet the spec but doesn't actually have licenses from them. I think this was brought up before.
 
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I wouldn't bother with the meets or exceeds issues. They didn't want to pay the fees, that's all.

Even the Castrol 0w40 "meets the engine test requirements of" the specs.


It is not fees, they actually cannot get approval. Redline is prime example.
 
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
any 5w30 on sale at walmart, I let them change it

Any 5W30 does not have anything to do with Euro specifications.
 
The old "it meets the certs they just don't want to pay the fees" excuse has worn out its welcome.

The premise in this thread that you "have" to use a 5W-40 is silly. If you need a 502 00 oil, buy the cheapest actual 502 00 oil you can find and ignore the rest.
 
Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
There has been the steady 'movement' from 5W40 to 0W40 to 5W30 to 0W30 and even to 0W20 (eg for the 2019 VW GTI).

BUT as of today, if you if you still had to use a 5W40 oil which one would it be? (Which has the most certifications/approvals?)


To answer your question.. I think the most certs is Rotella 5w40

API: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4 ACEA E9, JASO DH-2, Cummins CES 20086; Volvo
VDS-4.5; Detroit Fluid Specification DDC (DFS) 93K222, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, MAN
M3575, JASO MA/ MA2, Allison TES 439, MB-Approval 228.


The JASO MA isnt a legit cert as far as i know..but they feel confident enough to list it.

The JASO certs that they list have created many thousands of pages of discussions all over the web from road bikes to offroad atv/utv etc etc.

The Allison TES 439 cert isnt legit as far as i know either. According to Allison T3 and T4 are but T6 is not listed whereas DELO 5w40 is.

So in summary- I dont really go by certs. I usually go with Rotella due to their robust add packs low cost and availability.






What this has to do with Euro oils? Isn't there heavy duty diesel oil subforum?
While T6 is good oil, it is not as sophisticated as oils that meet MB229.5/51 etc. It is made for different application.
 
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
Originally Posted by skyactiv
And while I don't recommend you do it, I'm running Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 A5 oil in my GTI for a 5K run.


(Too late i.e. I have had PP EURO LX 0W30 in our GOLF R since early November.)

PP Euro LX has HTHS of 3.5 and higher. Not really comparable to PP 5W30 ACEA A5.
 
Favorite A3/B4 5W-40 with euro OEM approvals goes to Pennzoil Platinum Euro. If it's good enough for Ferrari....
 
Originally Posted by JFAllen
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Pennzoil Platinum Euro


Same as Helix Ultra in the rest of the world. Great stuff


+1
 
Originally Posted by 1JZ_E46
Favorite A3/B4 5W-40 with euro OEM approvals goes to Pennzoil Platinum Euro. If it's good enough for Ferrari....

But at $10 a quart someone needs to make the case it is twice as good as Castrol 0W-40
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by 1JZ_E46
Favorite A3/B4 5W-40 with euro OEM approvals goes to Pennzoil Platinum Euro. If it's good enough for Ferrari....

But at $10 a quart someone needs to make the case it is twice as good as Castrol 0W-40
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$32.99 for 5 quarts and you choose your filter at AAP.

I got 10 quarts and 2 K&N filters for less than $70.
 
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