What is the least expensive way to make oil cling to metal surfaces absent esters or other relative costly ingredients and still perform to minimal performance criteria as dictated by the automakers requirements?
What is the best oil ingredient to protect against cold start wear?
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Get a house brand that doesn't spend millions on advertising or athletic sponsorships.
Vague, a great choice of a word. When it comes to oil for our vehicles, the oil industry is a master at making vague claims!
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It would have been best to ask this question in a separate thread.
You're confusing 'cling" with polar attraction. Stickiness or cling is the ability of a substance to mechanically adhere to other substances. Polar attraction is a "charge" (coulombic) effect.
Many of the oil additives are in ester form, such as ZDDP, the Boron compounds, dispersants , etc. so one does not necessarily need an ester base oil to make the total formulation more "polar."
Surfactants are "surface-active-agents," and may include chemicals to help spreading, clinging, etc. In ATF's we usually use a 'spreading' surfactant for wet clutch applications.
Olefin copolymers or OCP's are Viscosity Index Improver's in most engine oils and are 'clingy' themselves.
OCP's come in various ratios of polypropylene to polyethylene and are sometimes combined with PolyIsobutylenes (PIBS). A Tackifier, as is used in bar/chain oils, simply contain a different ratio of polypropylene and polyethylene combined with PolyIsobutylenes (PIB's).
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Nothing to do with your question but 12 volts in the form of an automatic pre oiler will significantly reduce the startup wear.Whether it's an additive, or a certain type of base stock, or both.
Titanium? Moly? "Intelligent molecules?"Etc...
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Or you could just disconnect the coil,crank the engine over til oil pressure builds.Reconnect coil,start engine
Or you could just disconnect the coil,crank the engine over til oil pressure builds.Reconnect coil,start engine
That’s going back a ways.
I have one in my van. I installed it when it was new. I flip a switch, and watch the oil pressure build, when it is up in the normal range I start the engine. No flooring the gas and cranking, or disconnecting coils, or anything of the sort.
I think I was too vague and perhaps just asked a bad question.
How about: what oil ingredients (or characteristics like kschachn elluded to) are most beneficial in decreasing startup wear? A good example would be the theory behind Castrol's Magnatec, clinging to parts and offering startup protection. This would be a characteristic, but one might ask what ingredient is responsible for it? Then somebody would say polar molecules aren't really intelligent...
More anti-wear additives that build up a good protective layer on parts (known as "film strength") would help mitigate start-up wear when the parts are just starting to move against each other before mixed or hydrodynamic lubrication is fully established.
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Thank you for posting this. It is an excellent description and deserves its own thread.
I actually wasn't confused. I am just trying to parse hyperbole from facts when it comes to advertising claims.
I use Red Line in some of my rigs so the ester's and boron are covered. I also like the boron because it absorbs neutrons and doesn't allow my power plant to go critical.
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Or you could just disconnect the coil,crank the engine over til oil pressure builds.Reconnect coil,start engine
That does not have the same effect, the engine is still rotating at approx 200 rpm.
You would also need to remove the sparkplugs, so there is no compression load on the bearings.Or you could just disconnect the coil,crank the engine over til oil pressure builds.Reconnect coil,start engine
Redline Oil or Archoil 9100??
When I used Magnatec 0w20 it had A LOT of Boron for a Grp3/5 oil. Its the best weight/quality in the Magnatec line with a slightly thicker hths rating too.I think I was too vague and perhaps just asked a bad question.
How about: what oil ingredients (or characteristics like kschachn elluded to) are most beneficial in decreasing startup wear? A good example would be the theory behind Castrol's Magnatec, clinging to parts and offering startup protection. This would be a characteristic, but one might ask what ingredient is responsible for it? Then somebody would say polar molecules aren't really intelligent...
Fairbanks gets you covered.
ok, I'm out
The "0W" ingredient.
Or a very good flowing 5W may best that sometimes.
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