A few previous threads which may be of interest. For what it's worth I have been using Maxlife in my son-in-laws's Toyota which lists WS and it has been fine. No shudder or any other weird actions.
Has anyone here used Aisin WS to replace Toyota WS? I'm assuming it's the exact same fluid since Toyota owns most of Aisin AFAIK. I have a used 2011 Sienna with a U660E automatic and have done a drain and fill @ 70,342 miles with about 2.5 quarts of original Toyota WS. It is likely the first...
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Looking to replace my ATF fluid on my 2016 Lexus ES 350 (V6) with 40K miles. Like Honda, Toyota calls for specific WS fluid but it is not full synthetic. I know their is good old MaxLife MultiVehicle ATF but I came cross a full synthetic Toyota WS specific option called Ravenol J1D2122-004 T-WS...
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Another happy report on Maxlife ATF. Vehicle is 2009 Scion XB with 76k miles. Asks for Toyota WS fluid. What drained out looked like liquid poo, as it was very brownish dark color and I couldn't shine a light through it. Factory fill I guess. But I replaced it with 3.5 quarts of Maxlife ATF...
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I'm planning a maintenance schedule for my 08 Toyota Land Cruiser (5.7 V8 w/ Aisin AB60 trans). I'll be using Amsoil engine, transfer, and crank case oil, but figured I should stick with Toyota WS for the tranny, as deviating from OEM ATF is sacrilegious in most auto circles. Long story short...
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Just curious if there are any better options out there. 09 corolla 151,000+
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Toyota folks, what are you using in WS spec’ed transmissions. I have a Sienna with the U660e 71k miles and I’m curious what percent of folks are following the WS mandate and who’s betting on what they think is a better fluid? More interested in polling folks who have taken real action on this...
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Hey all! I recently did three drain/fills on my 09 Vibe (Matrix) with Aisin WS. I figured, Aisin made the transmission, it's spec'd for WS fluid, can't go wrong. It seems to be shifting and working well as far as I can tell. (better than with the cloudy gray/purple mystery fluid that was in...
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Is this synthetic or semi-syn? Can I keep it in for 100k interval like toyota recommends? Will oil get "clogged up" with wear particles for this long?
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hey all! I will be changing the fluid in my u760 tranny from toyota soon. It calls for Toyota WS fluid but I did some research and came upon these points. As we all know Aisin makes the tranny for these and they have there own AISIN fluid called Aisin 0WS. Toyota also makes a fluid that we...
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Just read on Lexus Owner's Manual that one can use Toyota Genuine Oil or a good equivalent for the transfer case & differential, but such concession is NOT shown in the ATF WS where is says only use Toyota Genuine ATF WS. Why would Toyota make such a distinction? Of course in the immediate one...
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My Toyota 5.7 V8 + 6spd auto calls for Toyota WS fluid. Would changing to something like Redline D4 ATF or AMSOIL Signature Series Multi-Vehicle Synthetic ATF smooth out the shifts a bit? The shifts are often a bit harsher than I think they should be but a visit to the dealer and fresh WS made...
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This poll had been posted in a less robust manner previously. Those answers are gone, so please vote again. Poll open for 90 days. If you do not meet criteria below, but are interested in results, you can see results without voting. Please answer the poll stating your preferred fluid for your...
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First official post here. Thanks to all for the valuable info. Disregarding the "official" manufacturers must use the WS fluid statement, what is actually special about Toyota WS fluid? I have read here it is synthetic. I have read here it is not synthetic. I have read it is inferior to...
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Hi. Does anyone use Non Genuine WS approved or compatible fluid in a Toyota application? How many miles/Kilometers done with the replacement fluid? (Non Genuine fluid) Better performance than the OEM WS ATF? Any other concern? Cheers.
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Got around to changing the ATF fluid in my daughter's '07 RAV4. It has a wonderful drain plug (and dipstick), once you get the plastic bottom cover off. Got the Toyota WS ATF at the Stealership. Only $3.48 a quart - a real bargain for these guys. Doing the unscientific 'how fast does it pour...
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I just spent the afternoon draining out a synthetic ATF from a GX 470. I replaced it with the nonsense thetic Toyota WS. I know most of you won't believe what I'm about to say and you may not get the same results but I feel like I must report them. I decided to carry my 14 empty WS cans and all...
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I am going to start doing drain and fills in my 2006 4runner which requires Toyota WS. I saw this and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. Should I just go with the Toyota stuff for $10/qt? http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/ATF0WS
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I will go with the answer first. Yes I can mix fluids as long as they meet spec. I just called the dealer for WS fluid. $15.75 a quart, $56.74 for the trans filter and gasket. He advised me that I could not "mix" fluids. I did not go any further with the subject because today has been one of...
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I've got a bottle of Lubegard Red. Would you use it with Maxlife ATF in a speced WS transmission? This is going in my 2015 Toyota Tacoma.
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I want to drain and refill the the automatic transmission of a 2006 Toyota Avalon. Previously, I have used Amsoil Low Viscosity ATF. I have on hand Castrol Multi Vehicle ATF. Anyone have any experience with this fluid when used in Toyota WS ATF applications? Thanks
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Anyone analyzed the WS compatible synthetic transmission fluid from AISIN. Its called ATW+ compatible with WS ATF and many more. The Russian oil forums have some good info and discussions regarding this oil. It seems the kinematic viscosity seems to be a tad higher. I am replacing the fluid on...
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Yeah, I'd reco OP take his time and read some of these. I went down a similar rabbit hole awhile back, but just searched the board and found a plethora of information as shown above.
I've since done Maxlife spill 'n fills on two AB60Fs in two Tundras with no ill effects of which I have been informed. One guy immediately drove it from Colo to Mexico for 40 days, then back to Colo. I asked how the vehicle did and he just said "great."
My clif notes from too much research were:
1) Maxlife is fine, and clearly approved for use here by Valvoline
2) WS is sometimes argued to be an adequate fluid but actually nothing special, and semi-synthetic
3) there's a solid chance Dex VI is virtually the same based upon specs, but I won't risk
that in a vehicle that isn't mine!!
4) many, many people have run Maxlife with no problems. The mention of potential shudder in this very thread was the first I'd heard, so maybe I should retract #4
NOTE this is what I took away from my research. I encourage
@Elkins45 to do his own reading and draw his own conclusions. Two people can see the same data and come to different conclusions.
As for snopes.....nah. Sorry, but the hard hat really was backwards, so I've written them off.