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#3412435 - 07/02/14 10:49 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: rossn2]
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Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1186
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: rossn2
Quote:
I got it from Amazon for $96 for 12 quarts!


So, it's 10.5 quarts of oil on the Ecodiesel, plus the $50-$60 oil filter from OEM...
Holy [censored], that's an expensive oil change at DIY pricing..

Yep, these oils are expensive!
They are also state of the art oils considering requirements, but yes, you will pay a lot (well in the U.S. terms, I am originally from Europe, and there add +30-40%).
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#3413250 - 07/03/14 08:51 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
howie12 Offline


Registered: 07/02/14
Posts: 4
Loc: WI
How does Amsoil European Car Formula
5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Low-SAPS, Low-Viscosity European Oil for
European Gasoline and Diesel Engines compare tot meets the these oils? It meets the MB spec but the Chrysler spec isn't mentioned.

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#3413285 - 07/03/14 09:51 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
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Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 1681
Loc: Southeast
Just saw a $49.95 price at my favorite on-line seller for an oil filter for the new RAM Ecodiesel.

The filter is a Mopar #LF68229402.

It's a cartridge style filter but, as noted in other posts, that seems pretty steep.
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#3413327 - 07/03/14 10:48 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: howie12]
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Registered: 03/08/12
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Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: howie12
How does Amsoil European Car Formula
5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Low-SAPS, Low-Viscosity European Oil for
European Gasoline and Diesel Engines compare tot meets the these oils? It meets the MB spec but the Chrysler spec isn't mentioned.

It does not have all approvals, especially if car is still under warranty.
Also, number are quite average. There are better oils on market.
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#3413467 - 07/03/14 01:58 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: SilverC6]
TSR6 Offline


Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: rossn2
Quote:
I got it from Amazon for $96 for 12 quarts!


So, it's 10.5 quarts of oil on the Ecodiesel, plus the $50-$60 oil filter from OEM...
Holy [censored], that's an expensive oil change at DIY pricing..


I've found the filter itself available for less - 3-pack for $115 with free shipping. I may just bite the bullet and do this until the aftermarket gets a hold of this one.


Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Just saw a $49.95 price at my favorite on-line seller for an oil filter for the new RAM Ecodiesel.

The filter is a Mopar #LF68229402.

It's a cartridge style filter but, as noted in other posts, that seems pretty steep.


68229402AA is the PN.

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#3413501 - 07/03/14 02:25 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
dubie2003 Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 495
Loc: Melbourne, Florida
M1 ESP would be my vote simply because I can get it locally at NAPA and when they run the M1 sale, it is usually included which makes it a 'steal' compared to others by the quart.

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#3413528 - 07/03/14 02:56 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: dubie2003]
TSR6 Offline


Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: dubie2003
M1 ESP would be my vote simply because I can get it locally at NAPA and when they run the M1 sale, it is usually included which makes it a 'steal' compared to others by the quart.


Mine do the "any 5 Mobil quarts + mobil filter for $xx.xx" - I'll get the ESP and stock up on filters for my wife's car.

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#3413534 - 07/03/14 03:02 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
howie12 Offline


Registered: 07/02/14
Posts: 4
Loc: WI
I did get a reply from AMSOIL and they said their oil does not comply with the chrysler 11106 spec even though it does meet the Mercedes spec. I have seen elsewhere on this forum that they are the same, Must be some difference. Amsoil said theya re working on one to meet 11106 and expect to have it available soon, whatever that means.

Ref the Ecodiesel oil filter I have seen them online as a package of 3 for 115.95, with free shipping. I had a similar situation with the cartridge filters on my 5 cylinder 220 hp Volvo marine diesels which were first made in 2010 and it took a year until Wix and others had the filter. Originally 35 or so from Volvo and hard to get and now $6. I expect we will soon see them available from Wix/NapaGold.

All the best,

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#3413544 - 07/03/14 03:10 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: howie12]
TSR6 Offline


Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: howie12
I did get a reply from AMSOIL and they said their oil does not comply with the chrysler 11106 spec even though it does meet the Mercedes spec. I have seen elsewhere on this forum that they are the same, Must be some difference. Amsoil said theya re working on one to meet 11106 and expect to have it available soon, whatever that means.

Ref the Ecodiesel oil filter I have seen them online as a package of 3 for 115.95, with free shipping. I had a similar situation with the cartridge filters on my 5 cylinder 220 hp Volvo marine diesels which were first made in 2010 and it took a year until Wix and others had the filter. Originally 35 or so from Volvo and hard to get and now $6. I expect we will soon see them available from Wix/NapaGold.

All the best,


Howie - Hello from Wisconsin...

The EcoDiesel Jeep has been our for a little while now, so I would assume we should see something soon - next 6mo to a year at most?

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#3413809 - 07/03/14 07:44 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
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Registered: 03/09/14
Posts: 200
Loc: VA
I seem to always go back to Mobil products. I tried the boutique oils, the latest fads, and always go back to old faithful Mobil.

That diesel Jeep is using is a winner. I hope to see it in a Wrangler soon, if so I'm trading mine in.

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#3413884 - 07/03/14 08:40 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: rockydee]
TSR6 Offline


Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: rockydee
I seem to always go back to Mobil products. I tried the boutique oils, the latest fads, and always go back to old faithful Mobil.

That diesel Jeep is using is a winner. I hope to see it in a Wrangler soon, if so I'm trading mine in.


Like I mentioned earlier, I really like the M1 products - just wanted to make sure the ESP oil was no different. smile

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#3414004 - 07/03/14 10:22 PM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
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Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1186
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: TSR6
Originally Posted By: rockydee
I seem to always go back to Mobil products. I tried the boutique oils, the latest fads, and always go back to old faithful Mobil.

That diesel Jeep is using is a winner. I hope to see it in a Wrangler soon, if so I'm trading mine in.


Like I mentioned earlier, I really like the M1 products - just wanted to make sure the ESP oil was no different. smile

ESP is actually by my opinion much better then M1 0W40.
M1 ESP 5W30 meets VW 504.00/507.00 which is more stringent when it comes to additive package then MB 229.51.
MB 229.51 is important bcs of stability of oil, NOACK value etc. But VW 504.00/507.00 has more stringent SAPS requirements.
Also, M1 5W30 ESP pds speaks for itself.
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#3414153 - 07/04/14 01:39 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
rockydee Offline


Registered: 03/09/14
Posts: 200
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: TSR6
Originally Posted By: rockydee
I seem to always go back to Mobil products. I tried the boutique oils, the latest fads, and always go back to old faithful Mobil.

That diesel Jeep is using is a winner. I hope to see it in a Wrangler soon, if so I'm trading mine in.


Like I mentioned earlier, I really like the M1 products - just wanted to make sure the ESP oil was no different. smile


Top of the line, nothing to worry about.

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#3414200 - 07/04/14 07:21 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: TSR6]
rossn2 Offline


Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 345
Loc: Kempner Texas
Be careful on the oil filters in that the filter for the Ecodiesel Jeep is different than the one for the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, even though it's the same engine!!!!
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#3415997 - 07/06/14 10:07 AM Re: Ram EcoDiesel, Pennzoil Ultra EuroL or Mobil 1 ESP [Re: rossn2]
tommygunn Offline


Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 2848
Loc: usa
Originally Posted By: rossn2
Be careful on the oil filters in that the filter for the Ecodiesel Jeep is different than the one for the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, even though it's the same engine!!!!


Luckily, the Jeep uses the same filter as the Lancia Thema 3.0 V6 CRD which already came out by:

Purflux L974
CoopersFiaam FA6092ECO
(European)Fram CH11299ECO
General Motors 93745801
Tecnocar OP1005
UFI 25.088.00

For the likes of $15-20.


Edited by tommygunn (07/06/14 10:17 AM)

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