Fram Extra guard oil filter for a Harley
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For my bikes, FRAM says to use a PH6022. I’m currently running an OG FRAM Titanium FS3614 on my 2018 Tri Glide. I’ve also used an OG FRAM Ultra XG3614 on my ‘89 Electra Glide for years. Better filtration than the Extra Guard and no issues. If you compare the specs of the PH6022 to the 3614 they are almost identical, including the bypass valve setting.
while not the same I used Fram Orange cans & Autolite White cans (commercial account filters that saved me $$$) on an '06 Honda Shadow 750...no issues during the time that I owned it from 2015-2017 doing 2-3 oil changes/yr (less miles than recommended oci due to shearing via clutch)
Also, friendly reminder that if the PH6022 works, then the 3614, 3600, and 8A will all have the same threading, same relief valve setting (12psi), and no appreciable difference in gasket. The 3614 is short, 3600 is long, and 8A is long and fat wide.
No question in my mind that the Harley Davidson OEM filter is more robust, I just think the price is really getting out of hand, but anyway, I put a Fram on last fall, and one other time in my bike 10 year history I have used one, they seem OK to me and certainly convenient.
One big plus I like about the Harley filter is Harley makes the special filter wrench that gets around the sensor on the Harley Davidson Rushmore engines.
Another great filter that I think competes dead on with the Harley filter is WIX 57148
I think they even point out it’s the same micron rating.
The funny thing is I ordered on two separate occasions WIX off Amazon and they came in dented and that’s how I ended up buying a Fram online from Walmart or something like that at a better price so I’ll probably keep using the Fram.
The WIX is a bit wider and more of a challenge getting around the engine sensor
One big plus I like about the Harley filter is Harley makes the special filter wrench that gets around the sensor on the Harley Davidson Rushmore engines.
Another great filter that I think competes dead on with the Harley filter is WIX 57148
I think they even point out it’s the same micron rating.
The funny thing is I ordered on two separate occasions WIX off Amazon and they came in dented and that’s how I ended up buying a Fram online from Walmart or something like that at a better price so I’ll probably keep using the Fram.
The WIX is a bit wider and more of a challenge getting around the engine sensor
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I've used these filters with no problems for thousands of miles
WIX 57148
WIX 51348XP
FRAM XG3614
WIX 57148
WIX 51348XP
FRAM XG3614
The Harley filter is "nominal efficiency at 5u" which is 50% @ 5u.
HiFlo Filtro HF171RC Filtering Efficiency
The HD filter shown in the video is not Harley’s newest filter. The newest P/N for the M8 engine is: 62700296 for a black one, …297 for chrome. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10172233-0001.pdf
bobistheoilguy.com
Fram says the 6022 and 6065B (chromed version) are 95% @ 20u, which is probably pretty close to 50% @ 5u.
Thank you that puts in perspective and to be honest not having to step into the HD dealership is a plus to me. I hate giving them any money.
@GMBoy
Not sure what engine you have but one thing the HD filter is and that is synthetic material. I believe the WIX is, dont know about HI-FLo but I had an issue with a Hi_flo, cold starts I would get a tapping for a second or two longer than I was comfy with. not sure why and doesnt mean it would happen again but not for me.
Doesnt happen with Fram, HD or Wix. Dont know why it did with Hi-Flo
Fram is a paper filter.
According to Amazon the WIX 57148 is paper too but I am sure that is not correct, I thought it was synthetic too. HD is synthetic
Wix on Rock Auto is $9 and Amazon $14
Here it is, Wix says its synthetic (glass) It even mentions the by-pass valve setting, which by the spec of that low setting you know this is a true motorcycle filter
Not sure what engine you have but one thing the HD filter is and that is synthetic material. I believe the WIX is, dont know about HI-FLo but I had an issue with a Hi_flo, cold starts I would get a tapping for a second or two longer than I was comfy with. not sure why and doesnt mean it would happen again but not for me.
Doesnt happen with Fram, HD or Wix. Dont know why it did with Hi-Flo
Fram is a paper filter.
According to Amazon the WIX 57148 is paper too but I am sure that is not correct, I thought it was synthetic too. HD is synthetic
Wix on Rock Auto is $9 and Amazon $14
Here it is, Wix says its synthetic (glass) It even mentions the by-pass valve setting, which by the spec of that low setting you know this is a true motorcycle filter
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Thank for taking the time to share all of that information! I have a Twin Cam 88B (Softail Duece) and a Twin Cam 96 (ultra classic).
My neighbor has been using this filter since 2008 on his 96 super glide with success (140,000km)
