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#2520584 - 01/31/12 11:26 AM Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it?
JDD Offline


Registered: 05/05/08
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Loc: Utah
I picked up some of this oil while at the dealer. I have seen lots of posts about the Toyota and Subaru 0W-20s, but not much about the Mazda flavor. Bottle says it is manufactured by Idemitsu in the US. Is this the same stuff as Toyota or Subaru?
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#2520589 - 01/31/12 11:33 AM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Is it also API SM? If its what I got its goooood stuff in the real world.
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#2520601 - 01/31/12 11:43 AM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: ARCOgraphite]
JDD Offline


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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Is it also API SM? If its what I got its goooood stuff in the real world.


Not sure if it's SM or SN---


Edited by JDD (01/31/12 11:44 AM)
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#2520609 - 01/31/12 11:49 AM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Registered: 11/18/05
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Same stuff as the Subaru 0W-20 and Cdn Honda/Acura 0W-20 but not the same as the Toyota 0W-20 which is made by XOM although the formulations are similar.

BTW, what other Mazda Brand oil grades are there? Is there a 5W-20 and 5W-30 that are also made by Idemitsu? Just curious.
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#2520622 - 01/31/12 11:59 AM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Cat, have you seen any Subaru SM 0w-20 VOA or UOA? I am not expecting the high moly load (800-10,000ppm) of the original Honda JDM/OE fill formulation.


Edited by ARCOgraphite (01/31/12 11:59 AM)
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#2520624 - 01/31/12 11:59 AM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Registered: 06/03/05
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Mazda has a 5w20 and a 5w30. We keep them all in stock for warranty purposes, but the 0w20 especially since it is much cheaper than buying it from outside sources.
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#2520632 - 01/31/12 12:08 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: bdcardinal]
CATERHAM Offline


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bdcardinal, so the Mazda 5W-30 says made by Idemitsu on the back of the bottle?
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#2520672 - 01/31/12 12:49 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
bdcardinal Offline


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Negative, took front and back shots of both 5w20 and 5w30.






FWIW the majority of Mazda OE chemicals ship from Excelda out of Michigan.
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#2520689 - 01/31/12 01:00 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: bdcardinal]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Thanks bdcardinal, and I can see the the bottle shape is slightly different to the bottle Idemitsu uses.

So far the only confirmed Idemitsu made 5W-30 is for Subaru and Acura Canada.
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#2520801 - 01/31/12 03:02 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Registered: 05/15/10
Posts: 1107
Loc: CA
Is there a difference between Motorcraft and Mazda 5w20?

Some Mazdas use Ford engines.

Is it possible that Ford recommends Motorcraft oil in a Ford engine while Mazda recommends Mazda oil in the same engine?

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#2520827 - 01/31/12 03:29 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: rjacket]
bdcardinal Offline


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Originally Posted By: rjacket
Is it possible that Ford recommends Motorcraft oil in a Ford engine while Mazda recommends Mazda oil in the same engine?


Sure they do. Every Mazda says :Mazda recommends Mazda Genuine oil" and every Ford says "Ford Motor Company recommends Motorcraft"

It is a little different for us since we are both a Ford/Lincoln and a Mazda dealer. We have twice the chemicals to stock. Even when we know they are the same, we have to bill them out correct for the application and make for warranty purposes.
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#2520857 - 01/31/12 03:59 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: bdcardinal]
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bdcardinal do you have the part # for the Mazda 0W-20 oil and is it the SM or SN version you have in stock?
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#2520905 - 01/31/12 04:31 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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Registered: 03/26/11
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Loc: San Diego
Any chance of Mazda oil being Castrol oil. I know that on the Mazdausa website, Castrol is a recommended for Mazda cars.

http://mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=ownersPartsProducts
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#2521075 - 01/31/12 06:45 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
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0w20 is 0000770W20QT Does not have any API markings on the bottle or case packaging whatsoever.
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#2521107 - 01/31/12 07:10 PM Re: Mazda 0W-20 what do we know about it? [Re: JDD]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
The Idemitsu made Cdn Honda/Acura 0W-20 bottle doesn't have the API donut either, but in the literature on the back of the bottle it says "exceed API SM/SL performance and ILSAC GF-4."
Does not the Mazda 0W-20 bottle state something similar?

BTW the Idemitsu made Cdn Acura 5W-30 does have the API donut as does the Toyota 0W-20 bottle.
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