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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4810526
07/10/18 04:09 PM
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Nissan hasn't made a good Z-car since they were called Datsun. All the later model ones are bloated and overweight.

Maybe a good additive would be that stuff Rodney Peete and his wife sell on tv.


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4812583
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Bottom line:

I don't find many modern cars "fun". Therefore, there are MANY that are simply not worthy of much consideration. As competent as a modern Corvette is, it drives and feels like a Malibu.

I don't find "classic" cars enjoyable either. They suffer in handling, braking and yes, often outright power is not what we remember.

The truly fun cars may not be what you think. VW's Golf GTi is a fun one. Only the higher end Mustangs seem fun to me. The better versions of the V8 Charger are also fun for a bigger car. BMW and Porsche make some strong contenders.

However, most new cars are really not all that satisfying to me. And therefore not worth the money.


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4812586
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Spend $20k and get you a nice 996.


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4813848
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44 year old here. I vote for travel.

I have owned cars that I loved, but as i get older it is the flashes of places, sights, and smells that touch my soul.

Sunset in Iceland with my kids beats any car ever, ever.

Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: Okapi77] #4814961
07/15/18 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Okapi77
44 year old here. I vote for travel.

I have owned cars that I loved, but as i get older it is the flashes of places, sights, and smells that touch my soul.

Sunset in Iceland with my kids beats any car ever, ever.


There are some good academic studies that support this view.
Experiences count for far more in long term personal satisfaction than do things.
I talked with my wife about this and while we both have vivid memories of family trips, the boys' sports performances and visits to theatre and museums, we have less interest in the things that we've owned and our cars were no more than a means of getting where we wanted or needed to be.
Now, if a car is a hobby to someone and they get all wrapped up with a local club and travel to events, then great. For those desiring mainly transportation, the thrill of something special to drive wears off fast and that special machine quickly becomes an appliance, warts and all.


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: fdcg27] #4815173
07/15/18 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: Okapi77
44 year old here. I vote for travel.

I have owned cars that I loved, but as i get older it is the flashes of places, sights, and smells that touch my soul.

Sunset in Iceland with my kids beats any car ever, ever.


There are some good academic studies that support this view.
Experiences count for far more in long term personal satisfaction than do things.
I talked with my wife about this and while we both have vivid memories of family trips, the boys' sports performances and visits to theatre and museums, we have less interest in the things that we've owned and our cars were no more than a means of getting where we wanted or needed to be.
Now, if a car is a hobby to someone and they get all wrapped up with a local club and travel to events, then great. For those desiring mainly transportation, the thrill of something special to drive wears off fast and that special machine quickly becomes an appliance, warts and all.


Good point. I would not trade the driving trips I've taken to BMW CCA events for anything. I especially remember fondly the two trips my son and I took to the Club's annual Oktoberfest when he was a teenager.. Plus I've had the opportunity to cover press launches of several new BMW vehicles, and met more than a few of the past and present drivers who raced for BMW. I've also had a great time at CCA HPDEs and rallies. To each his own, but getting wired in to an organization that shares your enthusiasm for a particular marque can be a lot of fun...


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4815283
07/16/18 05:44 AM
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I feel a little differently. I like cars and I have a mix of older and new ones and a truck for when I need a truck. I did a cross country camping trip a few years ago and it was cheap and fun. I drove my Challenger (2010 I had at the time) so I got to travel and use my car. It was stuffed full with traveling stuff, though. I would get the new car as it will be with you for a long time to enjoy and drive it to where you want to go. There is a lot to see in the US and Canada.

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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4816349
07/17/18 11:30 AM
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If you like to travel, consider a destination track-day/school where you get a few different car options in a unique local. I think if you do that, you will enjoy yourself and find a car you like

The reason for that is this: Z and Mustang. Two different cars.

I drove 240s (father) and 280s (mine) and even 300ZX (friends). I would never really ever consider a Mustang (in its current market format). My cars are my #1 hobby so I will pick a local drive over travel every day.

Back to cars.... If you want a soft seat and the V8 rumble, that is the Mustang. If you want a stiff, harsh, but quick "stripped" sportscar: 370Z. I would lean 5.0 Mustang for you. The 5.0 will beat the Z off the line so if you are blasting stoplights, it will be more fun. If you are carving mountain twisties, the Z will be far more engaging. Few folks give the 370Z the love it deserves for being a handing characteristics. The Mustang (while quick) will feel like a bloated corpse because you are having to shuffle an extra 500lbs+ around. Now, as the 370Z has aged (punch per $ is down), others are good options too.

However, the 5.0 and the Z are not the only options. Really, when you mention those two.... I think Corvette as that is the "hybrid" result of those two car personalities.


Now, I disagree that modern cars are "less fun". The problem is that a lot of modern "fun" cars are vastly superior to local driving situations. You reach that "should I be doing this" level much faster. Still, modern cars are better than ancestors.


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Re: Thoughts from a Middle Ager [Re: BISCUT] #4816405
07/17/18 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: BISCUT
I love mts and travel.


Head out west to the Rockies, Grand Canyon, Sedona, Arizona, northern part of the Grand Canyon, etc. Traveling is an education in and of itself. If I lived in NY I'd travel during the winter months. I remember flying into PHX and driving five hours or so north to Williams, AZ. Temp when landing was around 90. When I arrived in Williams they were talking about getting flurries that night in early May.

It seems like you've gone through enough cars lately to get the bug out of your system. So traveling would be my vote. Maybe buy an old patrol car if you want a V8.

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