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LL-01 Recommendations #4670098
02/18/18 06:37 PM
02/18/18 06:37 PM
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Texas
kuhlag Offline OP
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Texas
I am looking for recommendations for a BMW LL-01 oil for my next oil change for a 13 BMW 528 (F10 with the N20 4 cyl engine). Last oil change I used the BMW branded oil; have also used the Mobil 1 0W40 (when it was LL01 certified).
Looking at Castrol edge 0W40; but also noticed the 0W30 meets LL01...
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670105
02/18/18 06:43 PM
02/18/18 06:43 PM
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Upper Midwest
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Originally Posted By: kuhlag
I am looking for recommendations for a BMW LL-01 oil for my next oil change for a 13 BMW 528 (F10 with the N20 4 cyl engine). Last oil change I used the BMW branded oil; have also used the Mobil 1 0W40 (when it was LL01 certified).
Looking at Castrol edge 0W40; but also noticed the 0W30 meets LL01...
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Castrol 0W-40 is probably one of the finest motor oils available anywhere, carrying a large number of specifications including Longlife-01. Considering the price at Walmart I can't really see how anyone would make meaningful argument for anything else.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670112
02/18/18 06:47 PM
02/18/18 06:47 PM
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North Carolina
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Bingo. Castrol 0W-40. $21 right now at Walmart.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670126
02/18/18 06:58 PM
02/18/18 06:58 PM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Currently using Castrol Edge 0w40 in a 2006 E90 325xi and a 2004 E46 330xi that I service. Both run very smooth with no consumption.

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2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (36k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670308
02/18/18 09:15 PM
02/18/18 09:15 PM
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KY
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Any LL-01 rated oil will work fine.


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: rooflessVW] #4670357
02/18/18 10:13 PM
02/18/18 10:13 PM
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Oakville, Ontario
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Bingo. Castrol 0W-40. $21 right now at Walmart.


Darn, I missed that sale by just a week! frown

I hope it's still $21 the next time I cross the border (which will probably be in about 4 to 6 weeks)


2018 Corvette, 9k, M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold
2006 Civic EX Coupe, 148k, PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive,110k, GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra

Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: Patman] #4670378
02/18/18 10:34 PM
02/18/18 10:34 PM
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Texas
kuhlag Offline OP
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Still $21; just ordered Edge 0W40 on Walmart.com.
Thanks,

Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: rooflessVW] #4670385
02/18/18 10:39 PM
02/18/18 10:39 PM
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MA USA
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Last edited by andrewp1998; 02/18/18 10:40 PM.

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Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670423
02/19/18 12:19 AM
02/19/18 12:19 AM
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Colorado Springs
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Castrol Edge 0W40.
Stick to it.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670439
02/19/18 02:19 AM
02/19/18 02:19 AM
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Deutschland - Stütgart
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The BMW original Twinpower Turbo oils seems to be very good according the VOA on oil-club.ru

Here some specs :

BMW MTwinPower 0w40 LL01
- Viscosity @ 100°C : 13,37
- Viscosity @ 40°C : 75,89
- VI : 180
- Sulfated Ash : 1,15%
- Flashpoint : 230°C
- NOACK : 8,7%


BMW TwinPower 0w30 LL04 (but I think the LL01 will be the same exept for the sulfated ash value)
- Viscosity @ 100°C : 12,12
- Viscosity @ 40°C : 68,75
- VI : 175
- Sulfated Ash : 0,75%
- Flashpoint : 242°C
- NOACK : 8,5%


2013 BMW F10 535i - BMW M TwinPower 0w-40
1994 BMW 850csi - Castrol Edge 10w-60
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: edyvw] #4670440
02/19/18 02:23 AM
02/19/18 02:23 AM
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Deutschland - Stütgart
Kaiser Offline
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Deutschland - Stütgart
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Castrol Edge 0W40.
Stick to it.


In Europe there are two Castrol Edge FST Titanium 0w40, one approved for LL04 specs (Belgium version) and one approved for LL01 specs (German version)

Exept the level of sulfated ash, there are others differences ?

I'm running actually BMW Original 5w30, but I would like to switch to a good 0w40 but I hesitate to take Castrol (here in Europe people say that Castrol does not protect the engines like Mobil or Shell, but they don't give a proof of what they say...)


2013 BMW F10 535i - BMW M TwinPower 0w-40
1994 BMW 850csi - Castrol Edge 10w-60
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: Kaiser] #4670443
02/19/18 03:13 AM
02/19/18 03:13 AM
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Colorado Springs
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Originally Posted By: Kaiser
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Castrol Edge 0W40.
Stick to it.


In Europe there are two Castrol Edge FST Titanium 0w40, one approved for LL04 specs (Belgium version) and one approved for LL01 specs (German version)

Exept the level of sulfated ash, there are others differences ?

I'm running actually BMW Original 5w30, but I would like to switch to a good 0w40 but I hesitate to take Castrol (here in Europe people say that Castrol does not protect the engines like Mobil or Shell, but they don't give a proof of what they say...)

That is [censored], Castrol 0W40 is one of the best oils for Euro engines, if not the best.
BMW TPT is stout oil, but I do not like high pour point in LL-04 (-33c). Also, I like oils that meet numerous other specifications as each specification has something unique.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: Kaiser] #4670482
02/19/18 06:21 AM
02/19/18 06:21 AM
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Down Under
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Originally Posted By: Kaiser
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Castrol Edge 0W40.
Stick to it.


In Europe there are two Castrol Edge FST Titanium 0w40, one approved for LL04 specs (Belgium version) and one approved for LL01 specs (German version)

Exept the level of sulfated ash, there are others differences ?

I'm running actually BMW Original 5w30, but I would like to switch to a good 0w40 but I hesitate to take Castrol (here in Europe people say that Castrol does not protect the engines like Mobil or Shell, but they don't give a proof of what they say...)

Nothing wrong with Castrol Edge 0W40, however in Europe (& Australia) you can also get Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 which is an excellent BMW LL-01 oil too. Buy on price.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: kuhlag] #4670488
02/19/18 06:37 AM
02/19/18 06:37 AM
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Posts: 98
Deutschland - Stütgart
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Deutschland - Stütgart
The only thing that I don't like with Castrol oils are the flashpoint, they are too low compared to Mobil 1, Shell, Fuchs...


2013 BMW F10 535i - BMW M TwinPower 0w-40
1994 BMW 850csi - Castrol Edge 10w-60
Re: LL-01 Recommendations [Re: Kaiser] #4670544
02/19/18 07:56 AM
02/19/18 07:56 AM
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Posts: 109
MICHIGAN USA
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MICHIGAN USA
Regarding Flashpoint beware what Specs are being used CASTROL uses D93 while Mobil Uses D92 . D93 spec will show a higher FP in UOA . So you can't compare D92 vrs D93 .

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