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#4557558 - 10/28/17 06:41 PM Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
I think they are. I don't know why you guys continue to buy them.

They have skinny little pleats and most the time come out crooked.

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#4557562 - 10/28/17 06:43 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10257
Loc: Southwest PA
I doubt they are obsolete. Plenty of cars had paper pleated oil filters for years and still use them without issue
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#4557572 - 10/28/17 06:48 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12268
Loc: The Old North State
Very scientific analysis, thanks for the that. Now inform all the automakers that use cellulose media OFs off the assembly line. I'm sure they'll change immediately.

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#4557577 - 10/28/17 06:51 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Sayjac]
Merkava_4 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Very scientific analysis, thanks for the that. Now inform all the automakers that use cellulose OFs off the assembly line. I'm sure they'll change immediately.


LOL I'm just telling you guys how I feel. Speaking from the heart here. grin2

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#4557580 - 10/28/17 06:53 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12650
Loc: NE,Ohio
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I think they are. I don't know why you guys continue to buy them.

They have skinny little pleats and most the time come out crooked.


Merk take the red pills man those blue ones have obviously stopped working if you need to troll.
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#4557587 - 10/28/17 06:58 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Rand]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: Rand
Merk take the red pills man those blue ones have obviously stopped working if you need to troll.


LMAO! crackmeup

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#4557596 - 10/28/17 07:05 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
simple_gifts Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
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Loc: Middlesex County CT
Ironic coming from Mr. 10W-30.
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#4557603 - 10/28/17 07:10 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2754
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I think they are. I don't know why you guys continue to buy them.

They have skinny little pleats and most the time come out crooked.


It seems at best they only filter at 95% and at lower micron level. Your oil is as clean as your filter keeps it. Are you trying to extend your OCI with cleaner oil or expose your engine to more dirt over a longer period that's the choice.


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (10/28/17 07:12 PM)
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#4557610 - 10/28/17 07:15 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: simple_gifts]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2754
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Ironic coming from Mr. 10W-30.


10w-30 not so bad in fact a lot of 10w-30 oil is thinner than Mobil 1 5w-30.
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#4557637 - 10/28/17 07:32 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
otis24 Offline


Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 1656
Loc: South Dakota
How long before we have synthetic coffee filters? Is paper that obsolete?
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#4557641 - 10/28/17 07:37 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
If non-paper oil filters had a place in the market they'd be there, now.

Treated paper filters for air and oil work well and are cost-effective.

There are lots of engines of all kinds that use filters and a substitute filter that would fill the bill would be a heck of a product worth more than a small fortune.

There have been lots of attempts to replace the treated paper filter but none have succeeded on any kind of worthwhile scale.

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#4557658 - 10/28/17 07:45 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Rand]
yeti Offline


Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 1181
Loc: windsor, ontario, canada.
Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I think they are. I don't know why you guys continue to buy them.

They have skinny little pleats and most the time come out crooked.


Merk take the red pills man those blue ones have obviously stopped working if you need to troll.


merk doesn't take pills on the weekend.when he starts a thread such as this,he just wants someone to talk to.
fire up another one, merk, and go and enjoy the ball game.
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#4557664 - 10/28/17 07:50 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: Merkava_4]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2858
Loc: california
Trees, any plant, will be filtering molecules through their structures long after humans are extinct. Mobil 1 uses a blend. They don't have to. Cellulose has advantages, synthetic fibers have theirs. I from my heart believe cellulose to be the far more complex material. Synthetic fiber is like kid stuff in comparison. Good fishing. laugh

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#4557669 - 10/28/17 07:59 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: otis24]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: otis24
How long before we have synthetic coffee filters? Is paper that obsolete?

A very long time. Paper filters absorb bitter oils in the coffee. wink
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#4557674 - 10/28/17 08:02 PM Re: Paper Oil Filters Are Obsolete [Re: goodtimes]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Trees, any plant, will be filtering molecules through their structures long after humans are extinct. Mobil 1 uses a blend. They don't have to. Cellulose has advantages, synthetic fibers have theirs. I from my heart believe cellulose to be the far more complex material. Synthetic fiber is like kid stuff in comparison. Good fishing. laugh

+1 Cellulose has advantages, however super long life is not one of them.
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