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Nurse arrested for doing her job. #4504423
09/01/17 12:21 PM
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Disgusting.


Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504437
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That's a terrible abuse of power.


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: dishdude] #4504439
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
That's a terrible abuse of power.

Agreed.

Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504441
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I thought the Nurse is back to work and the Detective is also back to work (no strings attached)?

Wasn't a case of Police arresting firefighters because they wouldn't move the firetruck (who was protecting both the accident involved vehicle and police vehicle from traffic)?


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504450
09/01/17 12:45 PM
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WOW...this can't just be ignored...or has it?

Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504453
09/01/17 12:49 PM
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That's unbelievable.

I'll get flamed for saying this, but there are way too many cops out there who think they're above the law. We're all human, but sometimes they don't even act human, this really is disgusting. Yes, a majority of cops are good people, of course, but the number or screwed up cops is way too high.


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504461
09/01/17 12:54 PM
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The laws in TX allow for implied consent in cases like this BUT you are swimming in the deep end of the pool. It would have taken very little time to get a warrant for the blood draw. The burden is now on the officer to prove there was an emergency (exigent) circumstance that forced the issue without obtaining a warrant first. The case is always stronger with a warrant, the courts always take officers to task on warrants. As they should.

The only reason to go without a warrant is exigent circumstances. The nurse, refusing to do the legal draw, could have been filed on at a later time and a warrant could have been issued for her arrest. It really gained nothing in having an on sight arrest, even though it appeared to have been legal.

The key thing in both cases is the independent examination by a magistrate (judge) who signs off on what the law enforcement officer is trying to do by issuing a warrant based on the officers probable cause. It puts the officers enforcement of the law under a solid layer of protection from the court.

All that said, 21+ yrs on the job I can say some cases are better left alone. There was no need to arrest or charge the nurse. Even if the officer was correct (don't know the specifics of the case so cannot say for certain) in his enforcement of the law, the policy matter between his agency and the hospital should be handled way above his pay grade at a later time.


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504462
09/01/17 12:55 PM
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The internal affairs investigation is ongoing into Officer Jeff Payne's actions.

Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504463
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There's a longer yt video where a police "supervisor" comes along after she's dragged out and tries to convince the nurse it was her fault, before being carted off. whistle Imo, officer Payne needs to be suspended from duty pending a complete investigation of his actions. I would hope the hospital would back this nurse 100%.


Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: dishdude] #4504475
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
That's a terrible abuse of power.


+1


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504476
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What city did this happen in?

Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: gman2304] #4504478
09/01/17 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
What city did this happen in?

Salt Lake, Utah?


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504495
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I support our law enforcement when they deserve it and I know several good deputies and police officers that are close friends. This guy should loose his job. As well as any other officers that were present.


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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: Sayjac] #4504496
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One thing I can think here that makes this "respect my Authoriti" idiot valid in his thought process. Is that the unconscious patient was involved in a bad car accident where the vehicle had loose bottles of beer in it or whiskey, needles or drugs in it. Therefore giving this world champion the reasonable suspicion that the patient/driver was incapacitated by their drinking or drug use leading to a violent car accident. Thus, none of the three normal procedural processes are applicable in this scenario. If an officer comes up to your vehicle and he can smell alcohol on your breath then the officer has the right (here in Virginia) to ask for you to step out of your vehicle and do a field sobriety test or a breathalyzer test. If there are empty bottles of beer in a car and the officer suspects the person seems like they have been drinking then they have the right to do as mentioned before. I am hypothesizing here in this case this may have well been the circumstance.

That having been stated... This tin horn dictator, respect my Authoriti mental midget is exactly what's wrong with some of police officers. Instead of being reasonable, polite and judicious this idiot gets his female underwear in a bunch and goes off acting like an idiot. Good, bad or indifferent this behavior is not uncommon to just police officers. I have seen my co workers act in a similar manner. And yes, it creates just as stupid results. It is not just police officers who suffer from this mental health condition.

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Re: Nurse arrested for doing her job. [Re: bbhero] #4504500
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bbhero,

if a police officer would do this in your hospital,

what would be the unofficial response/treatment of ANY police personnel from that police department after that?


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