Last year I switch job to a very stressful company. I didn't know it would be this stressful (3x industry standard), and was working all nighter twice a week on top of the standard hours. My health took a toll and my boss' boss told me to find another job or will be fired. He gave me 3 months to look (suspecting that he is throwing people under the bus to escape responsibility and buy time).
Fortunately the industry has a lot of hiring and out of 4 companies I contacted, 1 really like me and gave me an offer only 5% less than my current pay, 1 decide not to continue after an over the phone interview, 1 has no opening, and the last one has a need to hire but no posted opening, only from the people I know in the department (I know 1/2 of the department from previous work relationship), but the hiring manager whom I do not know in person, only started responding back to me after about 3 weeks of contacts, saying that "there are a few internal projects being kicked off, let me check if there's any that's a good fit for you." It seems like he is hinting that his team has no opening but other team may, if I understand correctly.
I like this "maybe an opening" company better because it is more family friendly, but it has a track record of laying off people when cancelling projects. The company who offer me 5% less is relatively more stressful and has an "old boy club" culture, yet they have free lunch, top notch medical insurance, and the team I will be joining is close to the core of the company as well as the most in demand and challenging work in the industry.
Commute distance wise they are about 1 mile from each other, and pay wise they are close from people in the industry I know. It would be a "family and fun with layoff risk in a good project if I'm lucky" vs "old boy club with more stress but free lunch, best medical insurance, and close to the core technology". Most importantly, it is a solid offer vs a maybe.
I'm planning to start in mid July this year, so not much time left for interview and hiring process. Currently, despite being "asked to leave", I'm still doing my best to hands off my work to coworkers, wrap up my progress, document every detail of the know how, because I have a good reputation that I want to keep, and eventually people will know that it is the management and corporate culture, not me that is the problem. Not much time left to interview a "maybe". Funny because one of the manager who interviewed me from the old boy club just started at my current company yesterday, we might end up switching job with each other.
So, what should I tell the hiring manger of the "maybe" company? We have heard of each other from other coworkers, and I do not want to burn any bridge after asking in personal email if he has any opening. I also definitely do not want to burn any bridge or be blacklisted in the old boy club company after already signing their offer.
Fortunately the industry has a lot of hiring and out of 4 companies I contacted, 1 really like me and gave me an offer only 5% less than my current pay, 1 decide not to continue after an over the phone interview, 1 has no opening, and the last one has a need to hire but no posted opening, only from the people I know in the department (I know 1/2 of the department from previous work relationship), but the hiring manager whom I do not know in person, only started responding back to me after about 3 weeks of contacts, saying that "there are a few internal projects being kicked off, let me check if there's any that's a good fit for you." It seems like he is hinting that his team has no opening but other team may, if I understand correctly.
I like this "maybe an opening" company better because it is more family friendly, but it has a track record of laying off people when cancelling projects. The company who offer me 5% less is relatively more stressful and has an "old boy club" culture, yet they have free lunch, top notch medical insurance, and the team I will be joining is close to the core of the company as well as the most in demand and challenging work in the industry.
Commute distance wise they are about 1 mile from each other, and pay wise they are close from people in the industry I know. It would be a "family and fun with layoff risk in a good project if I'm lucky" vs "old boy club with more stress but free lunch, best medical insurance, and close to the core technology". Most importantly, it is a solid offer vs a maybe.
I'm planning to start in mid July this year, so not much time left for interview and hiring process. Currently, despite being "asked to leave", I'm still doing my best to hands off my work to coworkers, wrap up my progress, document every detail of the know how, because I have a good reputation that I want to keep, and eventually people will know that it is the management and corporate culture, not me that is the problem. Not much time left to interview a "maybe". Funny because one of the manager who interviewed me from the old boy club just started at my current company yesterday, we might end up switching job with each other.
So, what should I tell the hiring manger of the "maybe" company? We have heard of each other from other coworkers, and I do not want to burn any bridge after asking in personal email if he has any opening. I also definitely do not want to burn any bridge or be blacklisted in the old boy club company after already signing their offer.
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