There are still dealers that use anything available in the EA888 Budak cycle. 5W40, 0W30, whatever they have at their disposal.
when there is no vw 508…
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From a dealer’s perspective ETKA tells you to follow the maintenance table specification.
If you check ETKA for a 1.5 TFSI DADA it will give you 502,504,507,508,509
It even lists a 502 0w30 for Russian use.
If you check ETKA for a 1.5 TFSI DADA it will give you 502,504,507,508,509
It even lists a 502 0w30 for Russian use.
Nope. More baseless nonsense to try and support an incorrect assumption.
You’re trying hard I’ll give you that, but you’re just grasping at straws.
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If anyone wants to argue about an engine being designed to run any particular oil in one country vs another. Show me the oil pump part number for tye thinner oil vs the thicker oil. An engine designed for thinner oil will have a higher volume oil pump. Bearing clearances are tye same across the board, even engines which I've built from the 1950s have similar clearances to today's engines......
AAAAND que conversation about PD oil pumps...
Toyota has same pump for 0W16 engines and markets where they allow 20W50 (Australia).
Larger volume doesn’t disqualify thicker oil. But smaller might disqualify thinner.
And what you said about clearances. I am wondering how these engines survive brutal cold in Canada etc. where some might not reach operating temperatures due to short commute.
Some engines now have variable displacement oil pumps controlled by the ECM so the programming may be the difference.
I wouldn't even say some. Pretty much every engine developed in the last 15 years does.
Some people just really want there to be a technical/mechanical requirement for low viscosity oils. So much so that facts and basic physics are ignored.
Perhaps, but the inverse is also true...
True. In fact, VAG had to provide a patch for stalling issues in 2018 for a bunch of EA888 engines that they speced 0W-20 for BEFORE the higher volume oil pump was incorporated to allow the use of such a thin oil and still maintain sufficient pressure. BTW, the higher volume pump works just fine with "thicker" oils too.
Source, TSB #?
You can start here:
VW TSI Engine Problems Cause Lawsuit
VW TSI engine problems have caused a lawsuit that alleges 2018-2019 Volkswagen GTI, Golf, Jetta, Passat and Tiguan vehicles suddenly stall while driving. According to the plaintiffs, the 2-liter TSI engines make driving dangerous and lead to expensive repairs for VW owners and lessees.
www.carcomplaints.com
They finally figured it was the low oil pressure causing the timing actuators to malfunction, hence the updated oil pumps.
Good point. I'd like to provide an example (more EA888 3G related):
My own Euro spec GTI Performance (engine code DLBA) was the very
first EA888 sitting in a GTI that is allowed to use 0W-20 (VW 508 00)
- back in 2017.
As a precautionary measure this engine came with an adapted chain/
gear ratio for its oil pump, perhaps some other details. As mentioned
and often repeated, running thinner oil COULD actually result in issues.
Either way Volkswagen still also allow for using VW 504 00 and 502 00
(incl 5W-40, perhaps even 10W-50 etc) on this DLBA.
A WIDE variety is permitted, so it's a NON ISSUE!
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Nothing whatsoever in that article about oil specification.
I was looking at it today so I know what it says. Literally lists all current oils bar 511.
Where are you finding this info? I'm curious what it says about the DKFA variant.
It's a shame VW don't allow using VW 511 00 instead of 502 00. It would be a precisely matching and wonderful replacement. Sadly it'll never happen.
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