were tesla and einsteing really genius?

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Originally Posted By: kschachn
I'd love to hear your views on some other supposed science greats. What do you think of the guys in this list?

Carl Gauss
Isaac Newton
James Maxwell
Michael Faraday
Max Planck

Maxwell and Newton for sure. Planck..no. Faraday probably not. Gauss..maybe
 
Originally Posted By: mk378
Tesla did all his stuff before the three fundamental subatomic particles were discovered, and Einstein after. Neither one thought about the parts of an atom very much. It is possible to design electrical machines without knowing the exact physics of the electron. Einstein's famous equation relating mass and energy predicted that an atomic bomb, if one was ever built (and he hoped it wouldn't), had the potential to be extremely powerful.

Knowledge is forgotten a lot more than it is "suppressed". For example the Romans made a lot of things out of concrete. After their empire fell, no one knew how to make concrete until it was re-discovered hundreds of years later.


Great post...and I think the pyramids before that was another great example of ancient concrete with the technology lost.

Pozzolans is a side hobby of mine, and the Roman stuff will be standing long after our major cities have crumbled, as "Portland Cement" chemistry is different to what the Romans employed.

My Group Executive Manager is a Roman History nut (and aerospace engineer), and we had a great coffee machine discussion the other day about how close the Romans were to an industrial revolution bar one or two ideas merging.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ai...3950678/?no-ist
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: mk378
Tesla did all his stuff before the three fundamental subatomic particles were discovered, and Einstein after. Neither one thought about the parts of an atom very much. It is possible to design electrical machines without knowing the exact physics of the electron. Einstein's famous equation relating mass and energy predicted that an atomic bomb, if one was ever built (and he hoped it wouldn't), had the potential to be extremely powerful.

Knowledge is forgotten a lot more than it is "suppressed". For example the Romans made a lot of things out of concrete. After their empire fell, no one knew how to make concrete until it was re-discovered hundreds of years later.


Great post...and I think the pyramids before that was another great example of ancient concrete with the technology lost.

Pozzolans is a side hobby of mine, and the Roman stuff will be standing long after our major cities have crumbled, as "Portland Cement" chemistry is different to what the Romans employed.

My Group Executive Manager is a Roman History nut (and aerospace engineer), and we had a great coffee machine discussion the other day about how close the Romans were to an industrial revolution bar one or two ideas merging.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ai...3950678/?no-ist



What about the Aztec's? They had some pretty interesting architecture as well that has managed to stick around.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
What about the Aztec's? They had some pretty interesting architecture as well that has managed to stick around.


Like the Hatun walls...?

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Yeah true...there's some strange Oz stuff (Gympie) and some carvings near Newcastle that really make one wonder about our "story"
 
Originally Posted By: KGMtech
The OP is French Canadian, that he writes in English is more than I can do in French.

Agreed. You don't want to see me try to translate what he said back into French. It'll be far worse.
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Originally Posted By: yvon_la
Sorry I don't believe in gravity.

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Originally Posted By: mk378
Tesla did all his stuff before the three fundamental subatomic particles were discovered, and Einstein after. Neither one thought about the parts of an atom very much. It is possible to design electrical machines without knowing the exact physics of the electron. Einstein's famous equation relating mass and energy predicted that an atomic bomb, if one was ever built (and he hoped it wouldn't), had the potential to be extremely powerful.

Knowledge is forgotten a lot more than it is "suppressed". For example the Romans made a lot of things out of concrete. After their empire fell, no one knew how to make concrete until it was re-discovered hundreds of years later.
dam , I had forgot about that also. You are right about concrete technology , in the last 5 year they finally found out how they possibly did the ocean front pier, the world knew they were impossibly old , why impossibly! Because with the best of today's concrete we just couldn't make said concrete , back then it was coming science but still it was a type of science ,most people didn't read or write so keeping record instead of surviving?in the case of tesla we know that some technology he created can only become discovered if all the version he sent are pooled together. That information is likely lost forever,not because the world government would not want to know what it is but because we don't know what to look for, [censored] a lot of tesla technology is still being laughed at by scientific.yep you are probably right!we ourselves forgot. That is even sadder
 
I think gravity doesn't exist .what we think is gravity , is likely an accumulation of static electricity, so is created (galaxy move, planet move . But some of it is likely grabbed, ex black hole area , ex pulsar area. Since that static electricity can't go anywhere (we re in a gigantic fishbowl of vacuum)static electricity accumulate probably faster then planet can deal with and this fast accumulation like generate something to cope up with the vast amount accumulated.after ward magnetism accumulation likely occur, afterward electromagnetism . When planet core likely start to melt (not enough natural cooling)that's when aka gravity likely occur.but its likely so conditional that it is rare happening. We see some yes but in galactic term it's rare
 
yvon_la...
re the static part, there's no doubt in my mind that there's a huge potential difference between celestial bodies.

And yes, this will mean that valence shells on average across the trillions of atoms on the globe aren't "balanced".

Doesn't negate gravity 'though.
 
Now , the only thing left? It's for Cern to debunk this so we get the proper picture in color , black and white picture is nice but it's hard to understand
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Tesla was not only a brilliant scientist, but inventor and creator as well, Einstein mainly stole ideas from Tesla.

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To the OP, please learn some basic science before trying to tell us about it. Even if you only study a few Wikipedia pages (not recommended), you would know a lot more than you do now.

For example, "space" is far from empty. There are charged particles, in motion, in between the Sun and other planets and also in the "empty" spaces between solar systems.

And, for the past several decades, physics theoreticians have been trying to formulate a "Grand Unified Theory" that explains the various known forces (gravity, electrostatic, magnetic, and nuclear), by a single relatively simple equation. This goal has been elusive.

Tesla had many practical inventions but also a lot of his ideas were clearly "pipe dreams", especially when examined in the light of our expanded knowledge after his time.

Newton's theory of gravity provided a simple mathematical explanation for Kepler's laws of how the planets move. Every reasonably educated person could understand that there was no need for divine intervention to make the planets do what they do. This was really the beginning of modern science.
 
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There was a survey in Tribology and Lubrication Technology. where readers responded 55 to 45 percent that Newton was the greatest physicist compared to Einstein. I think that's a good call.
 
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