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It is certainly Boutique in price, but Boutique in Performance????
I was never impressed with their formulations.
I was never impressed with their formulations.
Was Royal Purple ever considered a "boutique" oil
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I would agree with the opinions previously noted about their gear oils. I've used it in a variety of vehicles and have not been overly impressed.
Their Synchromax can work very well for certain manual transmission applications, however.
With regard to their motor oils, I do think the HPS or Synerlec containing oils are very good. I've used them in numerous vehicles and hi-performance Ducati cycles with no issues, including track use. Interestingly, my cycle mechanic builds and has raced bikes of all types and he is partial to RP. The shop that built my Z06 motor builds 1000+hp LS motors all day long and they use RP motor oil, as well.
Their Synchromax can work very well for certain manual transmission applications, however.
With regard to their motor oils, I do think the HPS or Synerlec containing oils are very good. I've used them in numerous vehicles and hi-performance Ducati cycles with no issues, including track use. Interestingly, my cycle mechanic builds and has raced bikes of all types and he is partial to RP. The shop that built my Z06 motor builds 1000+hp LS motors all day long and they use RP motor oil, as well.
Originally Posted By: deven
Another lets bash Royal Purple thread by people that have rarely ever used the oil......
Still have the old formula that had high moly in the garage. Boutique is supposed to be something "different". Let's take an oil like Redline or Motul, ester and/or poa based and high moly and high additives in general. RP's difference is purple dye on group 3 oil, and they took away the high moly that most guys liked.
Another lets bash Royal Purple thread by people that have rarely ever used the oil......
Still have the old formula that had high moly in the garage. Boutique is supposed to be something "different". Let's take an oil like Redline or Motul, ester and/or poa based and high moly and high additives in general. RP's difference is purple dye on group 3 oil, and they took away the high moly that most guys liked.
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Originally Posted By: burla
PUP's high detergency-GtL would deserve the title boutique before either of these companies when it comes to engine oil.
High detergency GTL? It's a Group III base oil, it is not any more "high detergency" than VISOM or PAO. I believe the only base oil with legitimate cleaning capabilities is POE.
PUP's high detergency-GtL would deserve the title boutique before either of these companies when it comes to engine oil.
High detergency GTL? It's a Group III base oil, it is not any more "high detergency" than VISOM or PAO. I believe the only base oil with legitimate cleaning capabilities is POE.
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
No. Again, there is little to no evidence to support your "imo" that the purple dye added to Royal Purple, or the base oils, or the Valvoline-like additive package RP has is any better than SuperTech Full Synthetic at walmart. The price is different though. .... Marketing is deceptive, no doubt.
It's not the purple dye that costs extra, it's the "Royal" in the name.
No. Again, there is little to no evidence to support your "imo" that the purple dye added to Royal Purple, or the base oils, or the Valvoline-like additive package RP has is any better than SuperTech Full Synthetic at walmart. The price is different though. .... Marketing is deceptive, no doubt.
It's not the purple dye that costs extra, it's the "Royal" in the name.
Royal Purple HPS did wonders for my flat tappet cam 5.0L 1992 Chevy C1500. Smoother, quieter, better MPG. If I ever own another vehicle with a flat tappet cam I will definitely use RP HPS in it.
Tried regular Royal Purple in my previous Escape with the 3.0L V6 and I didn't notice any difference at all compared to other brands of oil. I don't think it's worth the price premium over Valvoline VAS/SynPower, which is why I haven't used RP since. I did like that it was purple, though.
Tried regular Royal Purple in my previous Escape with the 3.0L V6 and I didn't notice any difference at all compared to other brands of oil. I don't think it's worth the price premium over Valvoline VAS/SynPower, which is why I haven't used RP since. I did like that it was purple, though.
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I sold Royal Purple when I worked at Napa. It was new to us and was called Royal Purple Synerlec and it was really a good product. Still costed me on employee discount 6.00 qt. I'm not going to bash it. People like it and buy it or they would not still be in business. If anyone has a problem with what you are using then you need to start buying our oil instead.
If you ever wanted to consider it special oil, that is now the HPS line, not what you can get off the shelf at normal stores. I buy the HPS line by the 5 gallon pales online, works out to about 7 bucks a qt. Here is a UOA of 5-30 HPS in out 5.6 Nissan engine
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4567039/Re:_Nissan_5.6_Castrol_GTX_vs_#Post4567039
It isn't a gimmick, you can clearly see the zinc and P numbers are higher than what would be allowed to get the SM/SN cert
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4567039/Re:_Nissan_5.6_Castrol_GTX_vs_#Post4567039
It isn't a gimmick, you can clearly see the zinc and P numbers are higher than what would be allowed to get the SM/SN cert
Originally Posted By: thastinger
If you ever wanted to consider it special oil, that is now the HPS line, not what you can get off the shelf at normal stores. I buy the HPS line by the 5 gallon pales online, works out to about 7 bucks a qt. Here is a UOA of 5-30 HPS in out 5.6 Nissan engine
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4567039/Re:_Nissan_5.6_Castrol_GTX_vs_#Post4567039
It isn't a gimmick, you can clearly see the zinc and P numbers are higher than what would be allowed to get the SM/SN cert
where did you buy this?
Thanks
If you ever wanted to consider it special oil, that is now the HPS line, not what you can get off the shelf at normal stores. I buy the HPS line by the 5 gallon pales online, works out to about 7 bucks a qt. Here is a UOA of 5-30 HPS in out 5.6 Nissan engine
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4567039/Re:_Nissan_5.6_Castrol_GTX_vs_#Post4567039
It isn't a gimmick, you can clearly see the zinc and P numbers are higher than what would be allowed to get the SM/SN cert
where did you buy this?
Thanks
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
It still is an overpriced gimmick oil
But . . . but . . . it's purple! And who could forget Blue Coal?
Oh. Well, you can look it up.
I'm waiting with bated breath for Plebeian Puce.
It still is an overpriced gimmick oil
But . . . but . . . it's purple! And who could forget Blue Coal?
Oh. Well, you can look it up.
I'm waiting with bated breath for Plebeian Puce.
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Originally Posted By: Marco620
I sold Royal Purple when I worked at Napa. It was new to us and was called Royal Purple Synerlec and it was really a good product. Still costed me on employee discount 6.00 qt. I'm not going to bash it. People like it and buy it or they would not still be in business. If anyone has a problem with what you are using then you need to start buying our oil instead.
They, like Redline, were bought out actually.
I sold Royal Purple when I worked at Napa. It was new to us and was called Royal Purple Synerlec and it was really a good product. Still costed me on employee discount 6.00 qt. I'm not going to bash it. People like it and buy it or they would not still be in business. If anyone has a problem with what you are using then you need to start buying our oil instead.
They, like Redline, were bought out actually.
I ran RP 5w30 in a modified 2003 Mach1, a HEAVILY(head work and cams) modified Escort ZX2 (Motorcraft filters in the Fords), and running it in the Q50 Red Sport(RP filter) I have. I ran 0w20 in my former Altima.
Never had an engine problem with any of them, and the Fords seem to have a SLIGHTLY quieter valve train than when running Motorcraft in the ZX2 but it was very noticeably quieter in the Mach1. I don't notice any MPG change or anything like that. Is it pricey? Sure, but I've never had an issue with it or seen any reason to move from it. I only do enough miles to need 1 oil change a year, but I have a very heavy food and do lots of stop/go driving. If I'm going to go broke over spending $70 once a year, vs $50 once a year, then I probably should be looking for a better job or wondering if I can even afford a car.
Never had an engine problem with any of them, and the Fords seem to have a SLIGHTLY quieter valve train than when running Motorcraft in the ZX2 but it was very noticeably quieter in the Mach1. I don't notice any MPG change or anything like that. Is it pricey? Sure, but I've never had an issue with it or seen any reason to move from it. I only do enough miles to need 1 oil change a year, but I have a very heavy food and do lots of stop/go driving. If I'm going to go broke over spending $70 once a year, vs $50 once a year, then I probably should be looking for a better job or wondering if I can even afford a car.
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Originally Posted By: BullittGT
I ran RP 5w30 ....... Is it pricey? Sure, but I've never had an issue with it or seen any reason to move from it.
SuperTech full syn is currently dexos1 Gen2 qualified, and I doubt anyone would have an issue with it either. Thats about where RP is performance-wise.
Thing is, SuperTech is about $3.50/qt in 5-quart jugs, and its decent stuff.
If you want "boutique" with likely better performance, then go for a German full-synthetic with tungsten, tri-nuke moly, and esters in a majority PAO formula: Ravenol dexos1 Gen2 oil. At least then you pay more and may indeed be getting a benefit.
Or, alternatively, use Mobil1 Annual Protection regardless of it's extra cost, as it is the latest chemistry from Exxon-Mobil scientists and has a very low NOACK to indicate its quite good.
I ran RP 5w30 ....... Is it pricey? Sure, but I've never had an issue with it or seen any reason to move from it.
SuperTech full syn is currently dexos1 Gen2 qualified, and I doubt anyone would have an issue with it either. Thats about where RP is performance-wise.
Thing is, SuperTech is about $3.50/qt in 5-quart jugs, and its decent stuff.
If you want "boutique" with likely better performance, then go for a German full-synthetic with tungsten, tri-nuke moly, and esters in a majority PAO formula: Ravenol dexos1 Gen2 oil. At least then you pay more and may indeed be getting a benefit.
Or, alternatively, use Mobil1 Annual Protection regardless of it's extra cost, as it is the latest chemistry from Exxon-Mobil scientists and has a very low NOACK to indicate its quite good.
[/quote] SuperTech full syn is currently dexos1 Gen2 qualified, and I doubt anyone would have an issue with it either. Thats about where RP is performance-wise.
Thing is, SuperTech is about $3.50/qt in 5-quart jugs, and its decent stuff.
I'm asking because I truly am curious and not being snarky....
Is there evidence showing that RP is only on the level as SuperTech? With what I've read on here it compares closely to Valvoline. Maybe Valvoline, ST, and RP are all very similar?
I really don't know I'm just asking the question.
Thing is, SuperTech is about $3.50/qt in 5-quart jugs, and its decent stuff.
I'm asking because I truly am curious and not being snarky....
Is there evidence showing that RP is only on the level as SuperTech? With what I've read on here it compares closely to Valvoline. Maybe Valvoline, ST, and RP are all very similar?
I really don't know I'm just asking the question.
Originally Posted By: tenderloin
From their website
RP PDS
Nice, can you hook me up with the HPS sheet ?
that's the API approved one.
Edit...about the time a bunch of us started to notice that their 0W40 looked like the only decent oil that they had and they'd dropped back to poor basestocks on the balance, they went to a "request a data sheet" system on their site (I notice that they've changed that)...
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/sds-product-sheets/
Click on the PDS, and nothing happens...click on the MSDS and you get it.
Type "Data Sheet" in their search the site, and you get the API one that you linked.
Here's what they offer in Oz...for more information, see the PDS/MSDS page.
Which doesn't have any PDS...
From their website
RP PDS
Nice, can you hook me up with the HPS sheet ?
that's the API approved one.
Edit...about the time a bunch of us started to notice that their 0W40 looked like the only decent oil that they had and they'd dropped back to poor basestocks on the balance, they went to a "request a data sheet" system on their site (I notice that they've changed that)...
http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/sds-product-sheets/
Click on the PDS, and nothing happens...click on the MSDS and you get it.
Type "Data Sheet" in their search the site, and you get the API one that you linked.
Here's what they offer in Oz...for more information, see the PDS/MSDS page.
Which doesn't have any PDS...
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I would say it was, and still is. It's also important to note that there are more RP oil products than simply the API versions, about the lack of which people were complaining before the SN rollout.
A dexos1 RP should be scorned because it's run of the mill, and an SL RP should be scorned because it's an outdated spec with no builder approvals.
A dexos1 RP should be scorned because it's run of the mill, and an SL RP should be scorned because it's an outdated spec with no builder approvals.
I have heard mixed reviews. The enthusiasm for RP oils in spite of no real evidence of clear superiority except in isolated cases reminds me of the old days with Amsoil. And let's face it, it really is expensive unless you get some kind of special deal.
The simple fact is that your local super store has oils that are excellent and will give long engine life at a much lower cost. You give up nothing but the purple dye...
The simple fact is that your local super store has oils that are excellent and will give long engine life at a much lower cost. You give up nothing but the purple dye...
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