Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 - Virgin UOA

[Scott S]

@SubieRubyRoo
I have a question for you, I had a UOA done on Mobil 1 AFS and the molly is higher than the molly on a VOA for Mobil 1 and the vehicle was driven 3500 miles, I'm thinking Wix had to have made a mistake when they did the analysis.. it's posted on the UOA board for my Ford Edge..

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Certifications they're the same aren't they? But I do see what you're saying..

I’m saying in general, between two nebulous choices. Some oils only carry all the same certs, while some have additional, more difficult certs like some of the MB & Porsche in addition to the basic ones.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

@SubieRubyRoo
I have a question for you, I had a UOA done on Mobil 1 AFS and the molly is higher than the molly on a VOA for Mobil 1 and the vehicle was driven 3500 miles, I'm thinking Wix had to have made a mistake when they did the analysis.. it's posted on the UOA board for my Ford Edge..

Could be some carryover from the previous sample, since around 15-20% of the old oil is left in the engine.

The other less likely but still possible explanation is that the lab mixed up the sample with someone else’s

 

[Scott S]

Could be some carryover from the previous sample, since around 15-20% of the old oil is left in the engine.

The other less likely but still possible explanation is that the lab mixed up the sample with someone else’s

Possibility I guess.. nothing really to concern myself with.. Thank you appreciate your help..
I will say that Valvoline is tempting is try, very nice hefty ad pack.

 

[Ronin73]

It has more Molly in it, and I thought more zinc

I’m confused. The Advance that is in this video has 279 Moly and 787 zinc. The last VOA of EP I saw on here showed 295 Moly and 840 Zinc. So the EP has more of those.

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[Scott S]

@Ford73
Castrol Edge appears to have a good ad pack.

 

[LeakySeals]

and had an oxidation value of 110, >30% ester. I'm using a mixture of it in a few of my drivers
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Do you mean adding a quart to whatever oil you’re using as a drive with cleaner?

 

[LeakySeals]

The only meaningful information that stands out from the other thread is that they seem to claim that it is an additive that is doing the work and not like the Blue Restore product which relied on Esters. That is now very clear from the VOA.
The MSDS discloses "PROPRIETARY SUBSTANCE OF HITEC 11188", but there's no information directly about that additive through Afton website or elsewhere.
That additive appears in all the Restore and Protect grades, but that's not necessarily relevant, it could be something else not even required to be disclosed.

https://www.aftonchemical.com/Afton/media/AftonSBU/Engine/PDS/HiTEC%2011180/HiTEC-11180_PDS.pdf?ext=.pdf

 

[Davejam]

https://www.aftonchemical.com/Afton/media/AftonSBU/Engine/PDS/HiTEC%2011180/HiTEC-11180_PDS.pdf?ext=.pdf

11180 does not equal 11188
But yes I found that as well. Whether they are related, identical, or something else entirely is another level of speculation i'm not going to make.

 

[LeakySeals]

11180 does not equal 11188
But yes I found that as well. Whether they are related, identical, or something else entirely is another level of speculation i'm not going to make.

I made the assumption that there was a typo and this is what he actually meant

 

[Analog-1]

Walmart at least here in Michigan now carries Valvoline R&P 29.99 for a 5 quart jug.

 

[wpod]

Thanks OP! Looks like blind faith on this oil or belief in the advertising...

People are suckers for marketing claims.

 

[wpod]

How they get all that boron without esters?

Ask Chevron oil.

 

[facility1]

i believe the pro-ds uses some esters of sorts,along with boron and lots of moly

 

[buster]

Some initial reviews suggest it actually does work quite well. Time will tell.

 

[fantastic]

Valvoline HM 150k shares the exact same additive package as this Restore & Protect product. They claim Syn. Blend on the HM but FS on this Restore. Just an observation & wonder if the Syn blend 150k could work well too but I see the HM is higher priced right now so that might be a bust.

 

[Scott S]

Can you please post the 2 voa's

 

[fantastic]

Can you please post the 2 voa's

Yes, give me a min.

EDIT: Here they are

VOA Valvoline Maxlife 150k Synthetic Blend 5w30

I was recently able to pick up some of the Valvoline Maxlife 150k stuff for under $11 per 5 qt. Figured I’d get a VOA. The bottle was shaken well before sampling.

bobistheoilguy.com

Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 - Virgin UOA

Here is the virgin report. THERE’S NO OTHER MOTOR OIL LIKE IT??????? I asked for both TBN & TAN???? I'll call them tomorrow and see if they will come up with it.

bobistheoilguy.com

 

[Sandstorm]

Valvoline HM 150k shares the exact same additive package as this Restore & Protect product.

Even if the numbers are identical, you cannot make this type of deduction based on a VOA. You can say "they appear to be similar" but statements like that are a bit on the naive side.

 

[fantastic]

Even if the numbers are identical, you cannot make this type of deduction based on a VOA. You can say "they appear to be similar" but statements like that are a bit on the naive side.

The add packs are the same...period. I'm confident in that statement. That is something very commonly done w/the oil blenders. The base oils ratio's appear different though. One being a blend while the other full synthetic.