Originally Posted by edyvw
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Mazda plays in the q3, x3, RDX, Xt4, etc. Arena with the cx5 top trim levels. Q5 is a bit larger, but also smaller than cx9. Rav, crv, etc. Are more analagous to where Mazda was in 2016, regarding performance and refinement.
Also, Q5 quattro system is about the same as cx5 awd system. Like, so similar its disgusting neither has sued the other, lol! They are both FWD, with AWD on demand when needed, the need for which is monitored by a [censored] ton of sensors.
https://m.glenmoreaudi.com/en/news/...uyers-want-it-/42853?mobileredirect=true
https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/the-mazda-way/technology/the-case-for-predictive-awd/
Personally, I prefer Mazdas system with 1-2% preload as it eliminates shock. No way to do that completely with complete decoupling without sacrificing engagement speed. Otherwise, iActiv and Ultra Quattro are [censored] near the same thing.
Your calling of the new ultra quattro "much more advanced " is proof youre just brandhumping. Further, that you dont understand how it works, when you say its part of the reason the audi has worse fuel economy, considering the awd system is literally physically decoupled and its just a fwd vehicle until slip is detected. This proves my point about your lack of understanding of how both vehicles mechanically compare, as well as how they operate.
For example, calling the mazda a twin scroll turbo design. Its not.
The list of factual inaccuracies continues, but the point remains that it seems your experience with Mazda is dated, and your understanding of Audi is incomplete, especially as relates to how the q5s awd on demand system works.
The fact that you think that Audi Q5 and Mazda have similar AWD system is stem from two things:
1. You seriously have insecurity issues around ownership of your vehicle. You want to drive premium, but obviously you did not get one. And you are seriously bothered by what your neighbor drives. Every topic you turn into attempt to find someone to confirm your bias.
2. You have no idea actually how any of these vehicles work, including your Mazda, let alone Audi.
And, that Audi, regardless that it has smaller engine, would obliterate that Mazda in curves. A. Bcs it is better handling vehicle, and b. you obviously only know how to drive on strait line.
And, you combine Q3 and X3. Do you actually have DL or you drive cars on a youtube?
Im quite content with my choice in vehicle, and driving abilities, thanks. What Im seeing from you is what we call "projecting ".
Maybe you can explain to me how the Audi Ultra Quattro system works and how that makes it superior to how the iActiv system works...since you claim to have knowledge of it that I do not.
As to which would win in the curves, well, its going to be really really hard to find that mash up to verify those claims, as they simply cannot be extrapolated from skidpad ratings or as youre so fond to point out, weight distribilution. Those only tell a small part of the tale, as I'm sure you know.
If I had wanted a base engine Q5, Id have saved money and snagged a used one, as no meaningful changes happened in 2019, and used q5s arent very expensive. I didn't. Cruise the Audi forums and you'll see why. Lots of issues. No real benefit aside from the sexy dash display and upgraded leather, neither of which are worth the reliability hit to me.
Eta, yes, the q3 is more x1 size, but it just looked larger to me on the lot? I wont quibble it.
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Mazda plays in the q3, x3, RDX, Xt4, etc. Arena with the cx5 top trim levels. Q5 is a bit larger, but also smaller than cx9. Rav, crv, etc. Are more analagous to where Mazda was in 2016, regarding performance and refinement.
Also, Q5 quattro system is about the same as cx5 awd system. Like, so similar its disgusting neither has sued the other, lol! They are both FWD, with AWD on demand when needed, the need for which is monitored by a [censored] ton of sensors.
https://m.glenmoreaudi.com/en/news/...uyers-want-it-/42853?mobileredirect=true
https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/the-mazda-way/technology/the-case-for-predictive-awd/
Personally, I prefer Mazdas system with 1-2% preload as it eliminates shock. No way to do that completely with complete decoupling without sacrificing engagement speed. Otherwise, iActiv and Ultra Quattro are [censored] near the same thing.
Your calling of the new ultra quattro "much more advanced " is proof youre just brandhumping. Further, that you dont understand how it works, when you say its part of the reason the audi has worse fuel economy, considering the awd system is literally physically decoupled and its just a fwd vehicle until slip is detected. This proves my point about your lack of understanding of how both vehicles mechanically compare, as well as how they operate.
For example, calling the mazda a twin scroll turbo design. Its not.
The list of factual inaccuracies continues, but the point remains that it seems your experience with Mazda is dated, and your understanding of Audi is incomplete, especially as relates to how the q5s awd on demand system works.
The fact that you think that Audi Q5 and Mazda have similar AWD system is stem from two things:
1. You seriously have insecurity issues around ownership of your vehicle. You want to drive premium, but obviously you did not get one. And you are seriously bothered by what your neighbor drives. Every topic you turn into attempt to find someone to confirm your bias.
2. You have no idea actually how any of these vehicles work, including your Mazda, let alone Audi.
And, that Audi, regardless that it has smaller engine, would obliterate that Mazda in curves. A. Bcs it is better handling vehicle, and b. you obviously only know how to drive on strait line.
And, you combine Q3 and X3. Do you actually have DL or you drive cars on a youtube?
Im quite content with my choice in vehicle, and driving abilities, thanks. What Im seeing from you is what we call "projecting ".
Maybe you can explain to me how the Audi Ultra Quattro system works and how that makes it superior to how the iActiv system works...since you claim to have knowledge of it that I do not.
As to which would win in the curves, well, its going to be really really hard to find that mash up to verify those claims, as they simply cannot be extrapolated from skidpad ratings or as youre so fond to point out, weight distribilution. Those only tell a small part of the tale, as I'm sure you know.
If I had wanted a base engine Q5, Id have saved money and snagged a used one, as no meaningful changes happened in 2019, and used q5s arent very expensive. I didn't. Cruise the Audi forums and you'll see why. Lots of issues. No real benefit aside from the sexy dash display and upgraded leather, neither of which are worth the reliability hit to me.
Eta, yes, the q3 is more x1 size, but it just looked larger to me on the lot? I wont quibble it.
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