Pennzoil 0w-16 is Coming!
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
'How about putting the cars on a diet, instead of trying to reduce friction in the oil?"
It was done long ago..
Remember the Civic?
1995 Honda Civic HB
Highway MPG: 50
My 1970 Subaru 360 was in the mid 60’s at lower highway speeds
My some engine kill switch activity in city driving I could sometimes get near 100mpg
'How about putting the cars on a diet, instead of trying to reduce friction in the oil?"
It was done long ago..
Remember the Civic?
1995 Honda Civic HB
Highway MPG: 50
My 1970 Subaru 360 was in the mid 60’s at lower highway speeds
My some engine kill switch activity in city driving I could sometimes get near 100mpg
Hi john_pifer,
Pennzoil 0W-16 1-quart and 5-quart bottles will hit the shelves in June 2018 in both United States & Canada.
Thanks,
Gena & The Pennzoil Team
Pennzoil 0W-16 1-quart and 5-quart bottles will hit the shelves in June 2018 in both United States & Canada.
Thanks,
Gena & The Pennzoil Team
Originally Posted By: racin4ds
LOL all you thin oil bandwagon members rejoice!!!! Funny to see so many here saying NOPE, but yet you're an advocate of 0W20!
Not this fella!! I'll NEVER run anything thinner than a 5W30 in ANY vehicle ANYwhere!
I reckon most are saying "Nope" because they don't have anything to run it in. Virtually nobody does, yet.
I have zero problem running 0w20 in my cars that need it and if I own one that was built for 0w4 one day, I won't have any issue running that either.
I would hope most people wouldn't dump 0w16 in a vehicle requiring a 40 wt oil to try and get 1 more mpg.
LOL all you thin oil bandwagon members rejoice!!!! Funny to see so many here saying NOPE, but yet you're an advocate of 0W20!
Not this fella!! I'll NEVER run anything thinner than a 5W30 in ANY vehicle ANYwhere!
I reckon most are saying "Nope" because they don't have anything to run it in. Virtually nobody does, yet.
I have zero problem running 0w20 in my cars that need it and if I own one that was built for 0w4 one day, I won't have any issue running that either.
I would hope most people wouldn't dump 0w16 in a vehicle requiring a 40 wt oil to try and get 1 more mpg.
Originally Posted By: csufl
Pennzoil 0w-16 is coming!
That link lists 3 Japanese vehicles that use 0w-16 but it is possible that 0w-16 can be Dexos1 Gen 2 someday
there are no 0w-16 or 5w-16 listed at Centerforqa right now but could be in the future
Pennzoil 0w-16 is coming!
That link lists 3 Japanese vehicles that use 0w-16 but it is possible that 0w-16 can be Dexos1 Gen 2 someday
there are no 0w-16 or 5w-16 listed at Centerforqa right now but could be in the future
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
Originally Posted By: GenaFishbeck
Pennzoil 0W-16 1-quart and 5-quart bottles will hit the shelves in June 2018 in both United States & Canada. Thanks, Gena & The Pennzoil Team
Too soon. Only 3 new car models, which usually get serviced at the dealership anyway, can use it. Need to wait another year.
Pennzoil 0W-16 1-quart and 5-quart bottles will hit the shelves in June 2018 in both United States & Canada. Thanks, Gena & The Pennzoil Team
Too soon. Only 3 new car models, which usually get serviced at the dealership anyway, can use it. Need to wait another year.
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Increasing bearing surface area increases friction, offsetting the benefit from thinner oils.
My thinking also.
Increasing bearing surface area increases friction, offsetting the benefit from thinner oils.
My thinking also.
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Originally Posted By: chainblu
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Weren't those old 5w-30s pretty poor? Those old timers were onto something I think. Anyway, I'll take a 3.5+ HTHS 10W-30 syn or blend as my elixir.
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Weren't those old 5w-30s pretty poor? Those old timers were onto something I think. Anyway, I'll take a 3.5+ HTHS 10W-30 syn or blend as my elixir.
Originally Posted By: chainblu
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
30 years later, most manufacturers still can’t make engines that properly lubricate with a plain API SN 5W30 oil, and we’re assisting to a malignant proliferation of house specs and certifications....
So funny.
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
30 years later, most manufacturers still can’t make engines that properly lubricate with a plain API SN 5W30 oil, and we’re assisting to a malignant proliferation of house specs and certifications....
So funny.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: chainblu
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Weren't those old 5w-30s pretty poor? Those old timers were onto something I think. Anyway, I'll take a 3.5+ HTHS 10W-30 syn or blend as my elixir.
Between a couple of Mitsubishi’s, I put over 300k using those poor 5w30 oils.
Yes, this argument is never ending.
Originally Posted By: chainblu
30+ years ago, when the auto makers were pushing 5w30 (per CAFE), the old timers were saying that the roads will soon be clogged with broken down vehicles due to this "thin" oil.
Now you guys think 5w30 is automotive elixir.
So funny.
Weren't those old 5w-30s pretty poor? Those old timers were onto something I think. Anyway, I'll take a 3.5+ HTHS 10W-30 syn or blend as my elixir.
Between a couple of Mitsubishi’s, I put over 300k using those poor 5w30 oils.
Yes, this argument is never ending.
Originally Posted By: nap
30 years later, most manufacturers still can’t make engines that properly lubricate with a plain API SN 5W30 oil, and we’re assisting to a malignant proliferation of house specs and certifications....
So funny.
Where did you come up with that?
30 years later, most manufacturers still can’t make engines that properly lubricate with a plain API SN 5W30 oil, and we’re assisting to a malignant proliferation of house specs and certifications....
So funny.
Where did you come up with that?
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
But those were vastly different oils to what they are now...remember.
M1 was a high HTHS Monograde (which met 5W), and the 10W40s were next to useless...
It's an apples to duckegg comparison.
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
But those were vastly different oils to what they are now...remember.
M1 was a high HTHS Monograde (which met 5W), and the 10W40s were next to useless...
It's an apples to duckegg comparison.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
But those were vastly different oils to what they are now...remember.
M1 was a high HTHS Monograde (which met 5W), and the 10W40s were next to useless...
It's an apples to duckegg comparison.
So what! That's the way it was back then. Your chart is useless(charts like yours can be made to fit anyone's opinion) in respect to the vast difference in actual benefits that the M1 5-20 had over the dino 10-40. At least in my application.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
CAFE has no hold on me. As a result, I will use whatever the rest of the world specs for that specific engine and it never is a 20wt and definitely won't be a 16wt oil.
In 1978 I went reverse of you. My engine called for 10-40 but I started using M1 5-20. Great stuff then and still is.
But those were vastly different oils to what they are now...remember.
M1 was a high HTHS Monograde (which met 5W), and the 10W40s were next to useless...
It's an apples to duckegg comparison.
So what! That's the way it was back then. Your chart is useless(charts like yours can be made to fit anyone's opinion) in respect to the vast difference in actual benefits that the M1 5-20 had over the dino 10-40. At least in my application.
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For greater entertainment, let’s remember this thread too
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4474533/Has_Ford_switched_back_to_5W30
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4474533/Has_Ford_switched_back_to_5W30
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