Send me your media and I'll find metal
With a strong LED flaslight and a 10X magnifying loop on wicked media, if there were metal particles I'd easily see them, even very small particles. I've seen them on the first oil change while my engines are breaking in, but once fully broken in I never see metal, only carbon type debris.Send me your media and I'll find metal
I don't wick my filters or use a magnifying glass. In bright sunlight the metal is obvious. If you inspect the media indoors, it probably looks free of metal.
I'm not talking about large metal flakes, I'm talking about tiny, but highly reflective bits of metal. Look back at every filter element I've posted here. All had visible metal when using bright sunlight.
You have an amazing engine that produces no metal. I wish I could get my hands on one of those.
They added new oil over this run (2qts) & the filter is rated for 25,000 miles but they conservatively went 18,000.
If you are going to extend oil change intervals, this is why it's important to back up the extended drains with data. Take a baseline sample at 50 miles, then sample at 10,000 miles to see how the oil is doing. When you have the 10,000 miles data, then make an informed decision on the safe length of the OCI.
Funny colloquialism. I have lived around the Boston area for decades and "wicked" is used as an adjective meaning "very".
Show us a wicked wick from one of your filters
i learned it here and the results speak for themselves.Exactly
I've never seen what you're describing on your engine ... which is visible sparkles by unaided eye of metal in the oil filter well after the engine is broken in. Oil filter media shouldn't be showing obvious metallic sparkles after full breaki-in unless there's a problem going on.You have an amazing engine that produces no metal. I wish I could get my hands on one of those.
What the engine rated for? What’s the manufacturer going to say when you show them metal and complain of weird engine sounds? They will laugh at that oci and tell you to pound sand.
What I see most of in that filter is Carbon not metal. What the OEM says & what the oil companies say may be different. Saying the OEM will laugh at you is something they have down pat. They'll not cover warranties for many "Reasons". Is this car still under warranty? Don't know..
The metal debris you can't see with a naked eye is normal, but if you're seeing a lot if visible metal with a naked eye after an engine is fully broken in, then that may be something to investigate. If you can't see any metal debris with a strong light and 10x magnification, then there's really nothing to worry about.
Oil interval is specified at 6,000 mile changes by Subaru. They will laugh at me because my warranty is long gone. They would also laugh at me if I was still under warranty because timing chain tensioner related noise is often considered normal for this engine on startup. Its rattled since 6 miles on the odometer. Recently worse. I intend to remove front cover and inspect and replace tensioner, guides and chains if needed. I take care of my vehicles their entire useful life. Whatever happens with this engine you'll see it here. Piston ring cleanliness is important to me and this oils apparent ability to clean and lower consumption from rings is helpful to the useful life of this vehicle. I have only seen carbon deposits in filters since switching to HPL over 30,000 miles ago. The very first filter I replaced at 5,000 miles was the dirtiest filter off this engine. This recent filter looked cleaner than the first HPL oil change with 3 filters at 5,000 mile filter intervals did. The first 2 filters of that change had noticeably more "goup" than this one did for the entire 17k. In hindsight it would've been entertaining to see the first HPL 5k filter wicked like this one. I hope this post is helpful. I also have a 424,000 mile Subaru I rebuilt the engine on at 380k. The rings had plenty of carbon deposits from 3k synthetic changes that seem to be cleaned away by this HPL oil with longer intervals. Whenever this engine needs a rebuild I'll post about it and take pictures along the way
I don't think OP is seeing a lot of visible metal on this filter but it's there even if you can't see it. I just changed oil in my 2.5kw Onan Generator 3 days ago & when I put the panned oil in the sunlight I could see little tiny reflecting flecks similar to glitter with 64 hour oil run. That gen has 400 hours on it & is 30 years old. However, I'll point out that it doesn't use an oil filter.
The "glitter of metal" in the oil is super small in size (less than 10u I bet), and most of that metal debris will most likely not be captured permanently in a standard oil filter. The particles are so small that they stay suspended in the oil for a very long time. So if any metal particles of that size do get captured, I don't think you're going to be able to see them with the naked eye, and most likely not even with a 10x magnification.
Yeah it was very fine glitter and not a ton. I would expect at least the copper & aluminium not to stick to a magnet. I've thought about getting a drain magnet for it.
Think a few people have mentioned that the can seems thicker and more stout than the Ultra.
