LOL. While it's not likely that the gas was "bad" I can see some civil lawsuits for fraud popping up. The tanker company must have made a nice little profit on selling old gas as new. I wonder what they treated it with or if they just mixed it in with fresh fuel. My guess is they just mixed it in at some predetermine ratio.
It came out of old abandoned vehicles that went to the scrap yard. It was old fuel. Old fuel doesn't burn as clean if it burns at all.LOL. While it's not likely that the gas was "bad" I can see some civil lawsuits for fraud popping up.
Another bloviated headline.
I didn't think breaking the law had any leeway.Another bloviated headline.
Sheesh.
Seriously. Magnitude of problem? How much went to ground? How many people used this fuel?
Did they actually break the law?I didn't think breaking the law had any leeway.
Don't scrapyards remove all fluids when the vehicle arrives? I'm sure it burned just fine when mixed. This seems more of a permitting issue (ie transporting "hazardous waste") in the eyes of the State of Calif.It came out of old abandoned vehicles that went to the scrap yard. It was old fuel. Old fuel doesn't burn as clean if it burns at all.
They've done an investigation & It sounds like they have enough evidence to support breaking the law. They've started court proceedings already & they pleaded not guilty. The story does lack some about the details. I understood the just of what's going on & I don't know if anyone would have access to the details short of Freedom of info request.Did they actually break the law?
I am not saying what this "Lamb Fuels" outfit did is good if true. BUT how much fuel did they spill?
Also, are the authorities and the press always right? Has Lamb had their day in court?
What are the details?
How many drivers in CA and how many got actual bad fuel?
We don't know details. And details matter.
There should be no leeway, but there are real violations and paperwork violations. It should make a difference if guilty in sentencing.
Ya. No HAZMAT permit and a few regarding the sale "disposal" of the old fuel.Did they actually break the law?
I am not saying what this "Lamb Fuels" outfit did is good if true. BUT how much fuel did they spill?
Also, are the authorities and the press always right? Has Lamb had their day in court?
What are the details?
How many drivers in CA and how many got actual bad fuel?
We don't know details. And details matter.
There should be no leeway, but there are real violations and paperwork violations. It should make a difference if guilty in sentencing.
From my understanding yes it's removed when before crushing/processing the auto. Don't know how this set-up was though.Don't scrapyards remove all fluids when the vehicle arrives? I'm sure it burned just fine when mixed.
Fuel lasts for about 4-5 months before it goes bad especially in the ultra dry environment of California. The article states that the fuel was "treated" before resold. Who know what that means but again, bet it burned just fine. Sure they may have been some really old gas in the tanks kept by the scrapyard but I'd gather it represented a very small portion of their daily intake of vehicles.From my understanding yes it's removed when before crushing/processing the auto. If old fuel could be rejuvinated then there would be a wider market for it but the reality is it can't be. Fuel breaks down & once that process starts it can't be reversed. There are products like Stabil that will prevent fuel from breaking down for a certain period of time, claimed 12 months, but that's the opposite of what's happening here.
They're taking old fuel that doesn't burn very well if at all & that will leave more fuel system deposits. I'm all for recycling but it needs to be set up appropriately not just haphazardly taking old fuel & selling it. We can't minimize that fact. They're selling old fuel out of an old car that's could've set for 10+ years. That's not going to "Burn just fine" when mixed as the mixture would be brought down to it's weakest octane value.
It's like saying you'll mix old coffee grounds in with new coffee b/c it'll taste just fine. Or take that old oil that's been sitting outside half open & saying it's ok because it's been "mixed". I know you're not saying that but just kind of the general analogy. I'll note that all of this old fuel comes with all the contaminates like water.