I bought the car, so its not really a public asset. its MINE. the roads are a public asset, paid for in part by my taxes, so ill drive so I don't impede traffic and I wont speed more than 10 over (unless I'm trying to pass some old guy going 10 under on a 2 lane road)
NTSB urges Mandate to Limit the Speed of new Vehicles to the Posted Speed limit.
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nice. and how many accidents have you been in? what did you drive? are you familiar with driving at high speeds, as MCompact claims he is?
You know though, that the rules of the road can't be designed for anything but the lowest skill levels... Otherwise it will be carnage...
I'm sure you've seen some truly stupid things happen on the track, but its still an environment that's 1000 times safer than a public road.
A professional driver on the street has probably seen way to many people die, and might have a better idea of what makes sense on a public road than a normal driver.
then stop trying to convince us you're right. if you're not willing to back it up, then i dont really care. i'll stop replying to your posts though.
no hard feelings
I might try to take you seriously but using capital letters does show one’s level of education.then stop trying to convince us you're right. if you're not willing to back it up, then i dont really care. i'll stop replying to your posts though.
no hard feelings
I'm not down playing anything. Apparently you think driving for 9 hours a day makes you a professional. I'll just sit in a medical office for 9 hours a day and call myself a doctor then.
I'm not convinced that my critic is a "professional" of any kind, but be that as it may, the techniques learned on the track or autocross course definitely have application to everyday driving- ocular driving/target fixation, threshold braking, skid recovery, weight transfer and the friction circle are valuble concepts to understand and apply. I sent my son to the BMW Performance Center two day teen school to learn the basics and followed that up with Street Survival where he learned the abilities and limits of his 1975 '02.
Although I guess that I could have saved a considerable amount of money by just buying him gas to drive up and down the road for nine hours per day over a couple of months. I'm sure that would have been equally informative.
This blue collar stuff sucks if you want a family and you’re not going to get far without some sort of degree/journeyman card. Learn from my mistake.
Wow, this thread really spiraled out fast.
Some interesting takes in this thread... Could do without all the personal battles and arguing about qualifications, but whatever.
The lines that got me we along the lines of "nobody" does the speed limit.
Interestingly, my employer collects that data for the state I reside in, and it shows that under non-weather impaired driving conditions, for roads with a speed limit over 45 mph under our jurisdiction, that between 30 and 40% of drivers actually do the speed limit or below. 1/3rd of the traveling public is more than nobody...
The data also shows that the 85th percentile speed for nearly all road types is less than 10 mph over the posted speed limit. (The exception is 60 mph divided highways, mostly found in our urban areas, where the 85th percentile speed climbs to 13 mph over the posted speed limit). If you want to make the arguement that speed limits are set based on 85th percentile speeds, that is true except where state laws cap speeds in some circumstances - which is the case for most of the roads in our jurisdiction. The big point here is that 85% of drivers are traveling at speeds less than 10 mph over the speed limit.
If we are talking about speed limiting, then if a reasonable buffer is applied on top of the speed limit, say 20 mph, the reality is that less than 15% of the driving public is being affected by such a limitation.
I'm amused by the lines of of you have to keep up with traffic, etc... Its the same logic family uses when they tell me how fast they drive to the same places I go, and that they'll get run over if they go slower. And yet I get there too, and it sure doesn't feel like I'm getting run over and regularly pass other drivers. Reality is some people just like to drive fast - and that is one way of justifying their own behavior.
I drove cars in a previous employers work fleet that were capped at the maximum speed limit in Minnesota.... and survived to tell about it. If the traveling public isn't willing to police themselves, and law enforcement is unable or unwilling to reign that in, then this is the next logical place to look.
The lines that got me we along the lines of "nobody" does the speed limit.
Interestingly, my employer collects that data for the state I reside in, and it shows that under non-weather impaired driving conditions, for roads with a speed limit over 45 mph under our jurisdiction, that between 30 and 40% of drivers actually do the speed limit or below. 1/3rd of the traveling public is more than nobody...
The data also shows that the 85th percentile speed for nearly all road types is less than 10 mph over the posted speed limit. (The exception is 60 mph divided highways, mostly found in our urban areas, where the 85th percentile speed climbs to 13 mph over the posted speed limit). If you want to make the arguement that speed limits are set based on 85th percentile speeds, that is true except where state laws cap speeds in some circumstances - which is the case for most of the roads in our jurisdiction. The big point here is that 85% of drivers are traveling at speeds less than 10 mph over the speed limit.
If we are talking about speed limiting, then if a reasonable buffer is applied on top of the speed limit, say 20 mph, the reality is that less than 15% of the driving public is being affected by such a limitation.
I'm amused by the lines of of you have to keep up with traffic, etc... Its the same logic family uses when they tell me how fast they drive to the same places I go, and that they'll get run over if they go slower. And yet I get there too, and it sure doesn't feel like I'm getting run over and regularly pass other drivers. Reality is some people just like to drive fast - and that is one way of justifying their own behavior.
I drove cars in a previous employers work fleet that were capped at the maximum speed limit in Minnesota.... and survived to tell about it. If the traveling public isn't willing to police themselves, and law enforcement is unable or unwilling to reign that in, then this is the next logical place to look.
You love total power and control…. Over everyone else. Well you and your central planning friends…
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