Originally Posted By: bigjl
Yawn.....
Do you read other people's posts or just make things up?
The engine is made and was engineered in the UK which means that the opinion of the people who made it will not be in the US.
In the UK I have only seen two oils specified for for the Jaguar/Land Rover 5.0 V8 engines.
That is Motul Specific 925 B which is a 5w20 A5/B5 low HTHS (2.6) oil.
The other is the Castrol Magnatec Professional 5w20 which is apparently the one that is dyed a different colour to the norm, I say apparently as it is as rare as hens teeth and only a small number of cars use it, they are all new or nearly new models so still under manufacturers warranty, so there is little point in stocking the oil as most will be getting dealer serviced, under EU regs you can use any VAT registered Garage and still have your warranty intact, but in practice only people who are tight or stupid do so as yes your warranty is intact, but you affect your vehicle residuals unless you are going to keep the vehicle for many years.
I would listen to what the US Mobil site says when they start building the engine.
But they don't, Jaguar Land Rover does. And unless I am very much mistaken they build it in the UK. The engine is not changed for the US, though the V8 is only supercharged over here, not sure if they have an NA or supercharged version for the US market.
I think you just think the only opinion that is correct is a US or Canadian opinion.
That is a sad state of affairs really isn't it.
Remember none of us but the OP has read the owners manual.
A dealer will recommend what he has on the shelf.
But the specs required are very specific, low HTHS, full synth, 5w20 A5/B5.
A rare spec in Europe so not exactly common in the US I would have thought.
My Volvo handbook recommends Castrol but doesn't specify it over all others, recent Ford handbooks have a little sheet in them with a recommendation to use Castrol products.
The only reason I can see Jag would say only use Castrol was due to lack of supply of the very specific oil needed for this engine and wanting to prevent "knowledgable" owners putting 5w20 Dino in there be a use they think it is the same.
If that means Jaguar have to provide the oil for free it also goes a long way to explain why the US Economy tanked and took the rest of the world with it.
That is the kind of regulation that only an imbecile would introduce.
Funny how Europe was being slagged off for using "thick" oils and now the issue is using "thin" oils.
Maybe MMO and some Kreen would be good enough, after all what does Johnny foreigner know.
Just to add the spec in the UK is 925 B which is backwards compatible with 925 A but not the same.
I shall add again the only oils I have found that meet the specs given are Castrol and Motul Specific 925B, both fine oils I have no doubt.
So what is the issue?
Price or lack of availability?
If you buy a car that is a little bit better than the average car and not cheap why baulk at the price and availability of the quality lubricants that will keep it healthy and running well for many years.
Phew that was a long post! How ironic it started with "Yawn".
Garak, kudos to you for being so patient and diplomatic with him. There was nothing in your post that justified the way he responded to you. As his post is so long, I thought it worth quoting a part that others may have missed:
Originally Posted By: bigjl
If that means Jaguar have to provide the oil for free it also goes a long way to explain why the US Economy tanked and took the rest of the world with it.
That is the kind of regulation that only an imbecile would introduce.
Funny how Europe was being slagged off for using "thick" oils and now the issue is using "thin" oils.
Maybe MMO and some Kreen would be good enough, after all what does Johnny foreigner know.
Yawn.....
Do you read other people's posts or just make things up?
The engine is made and was engineered in the UK which means that the opinion of the people who made it will not be in the US.
In the UK I have only seen two oils specified for for the Jaguar/Land Rover 5.0 V8 engines.
That is Motul Specific 925 B which is a 5w20 A5/B5 low HTHS (2.6) oil.
The other is the Castrol Magnatec Professional 5w20 which is apparently the one that is dyed a different colour to the norm, I say apparently as it is as rare as hens teeth and only a small number of cars use it, they are all new or nearly new models so still under manufacturers warranty, so there is little point in stocking the oil as most will be getting dealer serviced, under EU regs you can use any VAT registered Garage and still have your warranty intact, but in practice only people who are tight or stupid do so as yes your warranty is intact, but you affect your vehicle residuals unless you are going to keep the vehicle for many years.
I would listen to what the US Mobil site says when they start building the engine.
But they don't, Jaguar Land Rover does. And unless I am very much mistaken they build it in the UK. The engine is not changed for the US, though the V8 is only supercharged over here, not sure if they have an NA or supercharged version for the US market.
I think you just think the only opinion that is correct is a US or Canadian opinion.
That is a sad state of affairs really isn't it.
Remember none of us but the OP has read the owners manual.
A dealer will recommend what he has on the shelf.
But the specs required are very specific, low HTHS, full synth, 5w20 A5/B5.
A rare spec in Europe so not exactly common in the US I would have thought.
My Volvo handbook recommends Castrol but doesn't specify it over all others, recent Ford handbooks have a little sheet in them with a recommendation to use Castrol products.
The only reason I can see Jag would say only use Castrol was due to lack of supply of the very specific oil needed for this engine and wanting to prevent "knowledgable" owners putting 5w20 Dino in there be a use they think it is the same.
If that means Jaguar have to provide the oil for free it also goes a long way to explain why the US Economy tanked and took the rest of the world with it.
That is the kind of regulation that only an imbecile would introduce.
Funny how Europe was being slagged off for using "thick" oils and now the issue is using "thin" oils.
Maybe MMO and some Kreen would be good enough, after all what does Johnny foreigner know.
Just to add the spec in the UK is 925 B which is backwards compatible with 925 A but not the same.
I shall add again the only oils I have found that meet the specs given are Castrol and Motul Specific 925B, both fine oils I have no doubt.
So what is the issue?
Price or lack of availability?
If you buy a car that is a little bit better than the average car and not cheap why baulk at the price and availability of the quality lubricants that will keep it healthy and running well for many years.
Phew that was a long post! How ironic it started with "Yawn".
Garak, kudos to you for being so patient and diplomatic with him. There was nothing in your post that justified the way he responded to you. As his post is so long, I thought it worth quoting a part that others may have missed:
Originally Posted By: bigjl
If that means Jaguar have to provide the oil for free it also goes a long way to explain why the US Economy tanked and took the rest of the world with it.
That is the kind of regulation that only an imbecile would introduce.
Funny how Europe was being slagged off for using "thick" oils and now the issue is using "thin" oils.
Maybe MMO and some Kreen would be good enough, after all what does Johnny foreigner know.
