And where all the electricity comes from at night and times when the wind isn't blowing.Where do you think most electricity comes from?
And where all the electricity comes from at night and times when the wind isn't blowing.Where do you think most electricity comes from?
Id imagine it has to have some type of freeze protection.So it's not cheap. But one could replace the tank on its own if it failed. They keep the water in the tank at 170F.
The actual heat pump unit flows water to/from the tank. They talk about the heat pump being outside. What happens when it gets cold out and the heat pump is nut running. Won't the water lines freeze?
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hpwh is cheaper to run than propane. we arent talking NG here.And where all the electricity comes from at night and times when the wind isn't blowing.
The issue is methane leaks. Every connection to an ever expanding distribution system introduces a new failure point. For example almost all regulators on NatGas furnaces leak* to some degree and homeowners don't shut off the supply valve when heating season is over. *They don't necessarily leak enough where you would smell it but a simple sniffer used by HVAC technician will get a hit.And where all the electricity comes from at night and times when the wind isn't blowing.
Methane has been leaking into the atmosphere for a few billion years.The issue is methane leaks. Every connection to an ever expanding distribution system introduces a new failure point. For example almost all regulators on NatGas furnaces leak* to some degree and homeowners don't shut off the supply valve when heating season is over. *They don't necessarily leak enough where you would smell it but a simple sniffer used by HVAC technician will get a hit.
My home is all gas so I have 6 potential leak points (4 burners on gas stove, gas hwh, gas dryer). Every home in my development is built the same and contains 180 units. That's 1,080 potential leak points within one-half sq/mile
Yeah, but not from your appliances or livestock. Methane from those is bad.Methane has been leaking into the atmosphere for a few billion years.
In the same way that CO2 from developed nations is bad and CO2 from china is fine.Yeah, but not from your appliances or livestock. Methane from those is bad.
Right but as you are aware there's natural and unnatural contributions. Humans are adding to what occurs naturally.Methane has been leaking into the atmosphere for a few billion years.
Conditions on earth 1 billion years ago was about -80 degrees, at the equator.Right but as you are aware there's natural and unnatural contributions. Humans are adding to what occurs naturally.
BTW you would not likely survive on earth 1 billion years ago.
There was essentially no oxygen at the time.Conditions on earth 1 billion years ago was about -80 degrees, at the equator.
So for me I have concluded the 50 gal is not enough hot water for Jacuzzi. The gas tank style hot water heaters above 50 gal seem to be commercial and to be double or triple the cost of a residential 50 gal one.At this time, there is no need for me to do a minute's worth of cost benefit analysis. My house is currently set up to run a 50 gallon gas (propane) direct vent water heater. I can buy a scratch-n-dent model exactly like I have now for about $500, a new 2-gal expansion tank about $50 and that's all I need to change the water heater out. So $600 and my time.
If you haven't had work done by a professional plumber who does highly skilled and competent work, prepare yourself for a shock. Their rates are generally $150-180/hour now and many charge a minimum of 6 hours for a water heater change out. To go from a typical gravity vent gas or electric water heater to a hybrid/heat pump or tankless, you might be looking at $1500-3000 in labor alone, not including miscellaneous materials, parts, etc, plus the water heater(s). You could be looking at $5-10k for some elaborate "energy saving" water heater set up that you have to amortize over 20 years.
At a mere $6500 cost above $1800 (typical 40 or 50 gal water heater change out rate today), you're going to need to save $325+ per year for a consistent 20 years JUST TO PAY FOR THE ADDED EXPENSE. When the 20 is up, all you've done is pay for the added expense.
Let's say you saved $450/year. Now you're "making" $100/ year ($2000 total) on a ~$6500 investment. That's about 2% per year, not compounded. So 1.25% at best... ?
Lotta work, lotta hand-ringing, lotta head-scraching and lotta hogwash to listen to by salespeople to make 1.25% IMO....
I did some reading on this one. The tank alone is about the same cost as a hybrid water heater from HD or Lowes. And then another $3000 for the outdoor unit.The do. Its called a Sanden SANCO2.
Nyle system used to also make an add on heat pump for your existing water heater called the geyser. They stopped making them which is a shame because I would buy one right now if they still made them.
So true, but we are a nation of Tv watchers that believe what ever the Tv tells us to believe.Methane has been leaking into the atmosphere for a few billion years.