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Posted By: diyjake

Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 04:39 PM

I bought a Samsung EVO 860 500gb SSD to upgrade the hard drive on my 1.5 year old Lenovo laptop. This will be my first time doing something like this so any info you guys can share would be much appreciated.

I was originally going to clone my current hard drive to the new SSD but a few people told me to do a fresh windows 10 install. Will the fresh install really make the much difference? My laptop was barely used and it was used lightly for some photos, emailing and word documents, no games or major downloads.

whether I clone or do a fresh install what would be the correct procedure?
Posted By: Leo99

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 04:43 PM

I went fresh install when I upgraded. You put Win10 on a USB drive and you're ready to go.
Posted By: IMSA_Racing_Fan

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:22 PM

I went with a fresh install on an older laptop and WOW blazing speed! When the SSD's came out I was skeptical but I'm a believer now (but I still backup to a regular HDD everything I want to keep). You will be pleased with the result.
Posted By: Bottom_Feeder

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:24 PM

Really, it depends on how savvy you are and how much time you want to spend on it. Personally, I would never clone a spinning drive to an SSD simply because swapping parts, installing Windows, updating drivers and restoring data is easy, even enjoyable for me.

If you do a fresh install, Windows 10 is pretty good about installing workable recent drivers for most hardware, so more than likely it'll work fine after Windows finishes installing and it does the first round of updates. No real need to track down the latest and greatest from every hardware manufacturer.
Posted By: NateDN10

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:27 PM

Just a month ago or so I used Macrium Reflect to clone a Windows 10 installation from a 250 GB 5400RPM 2.5" drive to a 240 GB SSD. Due to the small size decrease I had to resize the main data partition during the clone. It went smooth as butter though, and wow what a huge improvement in speed!

I followed this guide: https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW/Cloning+a+disk
Posted By: LvR

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:37 PM

Whatever route you choose to follow, make sure you have a Microsoft account linked to this particular machine BEFORE you start - especially if you dont have a key and only a typical modern digital license. Once done, re-activation is totally automatic
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:46 PM

I understand the need to do a fresh install on an older laptop but on a laptop like when where it was hardly used, no games or downloads does it really make much difference? I guess it would delete unnecessary junk that was installed by Lenovo?
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by LvR
Whatever route you choose to follow, make sure you have a Microsoft account linked to this particular machine BEFORE you start - especially if you dont have a key and only a typical modern digital license. Once done, re-activation is totally automatic


How can I confirm this?
Posted By: PandaBear

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 06:00 PM

Personally I'd just clone it. Yes if you do a fresh install the performance will be better, but if you clone correctly you should still be fast enough and durable enough. The amount of work to reinstall is probably not worth the gain.
Posted By: PandaBear

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by diyjake
Originally Posted by LvR
Whatever route you choose to follow, make sure you have a Microsoft account linked to this particular machine BEFORE you start - especially if you dont have a key and only a typical modern digital license. Once done, re-activation is totally automatic


How can I confirm this?

Don't worry about that, you have a laptop so the license key should be a sticker on it already. If you have a home build machine and you don't have the original key then it may be a problem, but not in your situation.
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 06:29 PM

What is a good cloning program? I'll have to check maybe the Samsung SSD hard drive came with one.
Posted By: Rand

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 06:41 PM

I would clone it.

fresh install will keep you going for hours.. need to find all the lenovo drivers.

you will lose the lenovo restore partition etc.
Posted By: Quattro Pete

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by diyjake
What is a good cloning program? I'll have to check maybe the Samsung SSD hard drive came with one.

Samsung SSD comes with data migration software, or you can download it from their website. That's what I used when I moved from HDD to SSD on my laptop. You will need a USB to SATA cable to accomplish this.
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 07:31 PM

Is there a program that I can use to watch the health of a hard drive?
Posted By: Quattro Pete

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by diyjake
Is there a program that I can use to watch the health of a hard drive?

Yes, Samsung Magician, also available for download from their website.
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 07:42 PM

Thank you guys for the info!
Posted By: JohnG

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 08:03 PM

Just CLONE it and don't fret. Be sure to use the correct Samsung software to clone, NOT Magician. The software gets rid of a bunch of Windows10 junk on its own, so the cloned image will be smaller than the original space required.
Did this to two old machines. You'll be surprised by the increase in speed and performance!

Magician is used later, after the install.

I bought a hard case, external HD adapter and used that to clone. That way my original HD is protected and usable for backup or external storage. Nothing lost.
Posted By: Skippy722

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 08:06 PM

Having done both cloning and fresh install, I prefer cloning. There wasn’t any perceptible difference that I could tell between both options in terms of speed.
Posted By: LvR

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 09:00 PM

Log into the account associated with this machine .............. have a look at devices - you should see details of this particular machine there.

I would also clone the thing - shouldn't take you more than 30 minutes if the machine has not been used much yet.

Fresh install may sound nice but chances are you gonna get stuck with drivers and will have to start moving memory sticks around from a currently working machine to get going
Posted By: johnnydc

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 09:11 PM

I also installed a Samsung Evo and used Macrium reflect to clone. Worked ok for me and oh how fast my desktop is now
Posted By: rubberchicken

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by JohnG
Just CLONE it and don't fret. Be sure to use the correct Samsung software to clone, NOT Magician. The software gets rid of a bunch of Windows10 junk on its own, so the cloned image will be smaller than the original space required.
Did this to two old machines. You'll be surprised by the increase in speed and performance!

Magician is used later, after the install.

I bought a hard case, external HD adapter and used that to clone. That way my original HD is protected and usable for backup or external storage. Nothing lost.


I thought the Magician download also included the data migration package ? Maybe it depends on the version. Regardless the Data Migration is outside of what typically is considered Magician, but it is included in the price and available for all Samsung drives.
Posted By: Quattro Pete

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/30/20 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by rubberchicken
Originally Posted by JohnG
Just CLONE it and don't fret. Be sure to use the correct Samsung software to clone, NOT Magician. The software gets rid of a bunch of Windows10 junk on its own, so the cloned image will be smaller than the original space required.
Did this to two old machines. You'll be surprised by the increase in speed and performance!

Magician is used later, after the install.

I bought a hard case, external HD adapter and used that to clone. That way my original HD is protected and usable for backup or external storage. Nothing lost.


I thought the Magician download also included the data migration package ? Maybe it depends on the version. Regardless the Data Migration is outside of what typically is considered Magician, but it is included in the price and available for all Samsung drives.

Those are two separate Samsung applications.
Posted By: Gokhan

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 12:24 AM

Copy the files you need into a USB flash drive. Do a fresh install, which takes only a half hour. Then, copy your files in your new drive.

There is no reason to clone your old drive unless you have a lot of programs that you need to reinstall and a lot of files that are scattered around in your old drive.

The SSD combined with a fresh install will really speed up your computer. There are probably a lot of startup programs in your old drive that slow down your computer in the background, and this is a good opportunity to get rid of them.
Posted By: JMJNet

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 03:03 AM

Win 10 is validated digitally.
So, if it has Win 10 now, when you do a clean install it will automatically validate when the windows restart.
No need to enter any activation code like in Win 7 or before.
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by diyjake
I bought a Samsung EVO 860 500gb SSD to upgrade the hard drive on my 1.5 year old Lenovo laptop. This will be my first time doing something like this so any info you guys can share would be much appreciated.

I was originally going to clone my current hard drive to the new SSD but a few people told me to do a fresh windows 10 install. Will the fresh install really make the much difference? My laptop was barely used and it was used lightly for some photos, emailing and word documents, no games or major downloads.

whether I clone or do a fresh install what would be the correct procedure?


The big difference in speed will be the result of the SSD, not whether it was a fresh install or not. I've done hundreds of both and using an SSD, you'd never notice the difference between the two.

As others have stated, the path of least resistance is the clone, since you retain all your data, drivers, settings...etc. You'll need an external SATA USB adapter and the cloning software, which I expect you'd put on a USB stick and boot from. Some of the Kingston drives come with a copy of Acronis and a USB caddy for your old drive, which is super convenient.
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 11:15 AM

So I went ahead and cloned my hard drive last night using Samsung's data migration. Everything went smooth and just like some of you said took about 1/2 hour.

Thanks you everyone's help!
Posted By: OVERKILL

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by diyjake
So I went ahead and cloned my hard drive last night using Samsung's data migration. Everything went smooth and just like some of you said took about 1/2 hour.

Thanks you everyone's help!


You are quite welcome! Glad to hear it went off without a hitch thumbsup
Posted By: DIY4quality

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 03/31/20 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by diyjake
So I went ahead and cloned my hard drive last night using Samsung's data migration. Everything went smooth and just like some of you said took about 1/2 hour.

Thanks you everyone's help!


So, what differences have you noticed? Faster boot-up? Faster program startups?
Posted By: diyjake

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 04/01/20 11:37 AM

I haven't used any programs yet but boot-up went from about 1.5 minutes to 30 seconds and the laptop seems to run faster all around.
Posted By: KrisZ

Re: Upgrade from HDD to SSD - 04/01/20 05:57 PM

I would do a fresh install just for the fact that it will get rid of all the bloatware that laptops ship with. With my daughter's HP laptop win 10 either had, or downloaded the need drivers. It was a very easy process.
just google Windows media creation tool and they have a good guide what is needed and how to create a bootable USB drive to install win10.
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