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Re: Crushed washer [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5283385 12/02/19 08:24 PM
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Hyundai dealer tapes one to every filter I buy.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: dosmom] #5283426 12/02/19 08:57 PM
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I reuse what's there if it's still in decent shape. If not, I use the harbor freight copper crush washers in the assortment pack.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: elverado] #5283563 12/02/19 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elverado
I'm happy to have not dealt with crush washers in a long time, despite dozens of oil changes over a number of vehicles. I do it all topside now with a suction tank system through the dipstick hole. Nice to not have to worry about drips, distortion, new washers, etc.
My experience is that the washer on the drain plug is a non-issue, the least of my problems.

However, I'm considering switching partially to "topside" changes for other reasons. What device do you use? I see a manual suction tank system on Amazon which seems a good idea, but gets mostly negative user reviews.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: CR94] #5283608 12/03/19 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by elverado
I'm happy to have not dealt with crush washers in a long time, despite dozens of oil changes over a number of vehicles. I do it all topside now with a suction tank system through the dipstick hole. Nice to not have to worry about drips, distortion, new washers, etc.
My experience is that the washer on the drain plug is a non-issue, the least of my problems.

However, I'm considering switching partially to "topside" changes for other reasons. What device do you use? I see a manual suction tank system on Amazon which seems a good idea, but gets mostly negative user reviews.

If I may, i have a 5ltr (or maybe it's 4, i can't recall exactly) manual extractor that just collects dust for the most part. (i have used it for other things though).

The reason I don't use it for pulling out oil is my dipstick tube is curved so that eliminates using anything rigid. I have the soft plastic tubing that came with it but I found when inserted all the way down into the pan, there is no way to prevent it from curling up. I've tried straightening it out using a heat gun and laying it flat with something heavy on it to try and get it to stay straight but as it cools it eventually wants to revert back to a curled form. That small amount of curl at the end prevents the unit from getting out all of the oil. Maybe there's better tubing out there, dunno. I got tired of dickin around with it and just threw it up on the shelf. It works fine for PSF and brake fluid reservoir but I already had something for that. (that red/black manual pump from HF)

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Re: Crushed washer [Re: elverado] #5283610 12/03/19 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by elverado
I'm happy to have not dealt with crush washers in a long time, despite dozens of oil changes over a number of vehicles. I do it all topside now with a suction tank system through the dipstick hole. Nice to not have to worry about drips, distortion, new washers, etc.

Your new worry should be eventual sludge at the bottom of your oil pan.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5283621 12/03/19 05:19 AM
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Your new worry should be eventual sludge at the bottom of your oil pan.

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If it's so settled to not come out with a hot topside change, it isn't coming out with a conventional drain either.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: rooflessVW] #5283662 12/03/19 06:57 AM
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Yup, if you're dealing with sludge or particulates in your pan not picked up by the filtration and detergent suspension system then you have bigger issues. This isn't a John Deere tractor on non detergent HDEO. Good enough for Porsche and Mercedes service manuals and it's good enough for me.


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Re: Crushed washer [Re: dosmom] #5283669 12/03/19 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elverado
I'm happy to have not dealt with crush washers in a long time, despite dozens of oil changes over a number of vehicles. I do it all topside now with a suction tank system through the dipstick hole. Nice to not have to worry about drips, distortion, new washers, etc.
My experience is that the washer on the drain plug is a non-issue, the least of my problems.

However, I'm considering switching partially to "topside" changes for other reasons. What device do you use? I see a manual suction tank system on Amazon which seems a good idea, but gets mostly negative user reviews.


I have been using the BavAuto Oil Extractor for the last year or so, after I bought a V6 minivan needing higher capacity. For the ten years before that I used this smaller one. It gets used for far more than oil changes. Brake bleeding, trans fluid changes, power steering fluid refreshes. Great for lawn mowers, ATVs, boats, air compressors where the drain options are limited or messy. I maintain some family cars and sometimes will have three in the driveway I suck dry, swap filters, and fill up in 45 mins even at 5 degrees in January. Don't miss having to jack things up and remove splash pans either.

I've heard that some cars have too convoluted of a dipstick tube for it to work. But so far have used it on a number of Hondas, Mazdas, Fords, and my MINI Cooper and it sucks them dry. German cars seem to be built for them with the cartridge filters accessible from within the engine bay. Probably not worth it if the oil filter is buried deep underside and needs a catch tray anyway, but luckily my cars don't have that issue.


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