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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5279127 11/27/19 05:55 PM
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QSUD has much better cold specs.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Slick17601] #5279151 11/27/19 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick17601
QSUD has much better cold specs.


The OP lives in Mississippi, that's hardly a factor in choosing one of these over the other πŸ˜„

I'd choose Havoline, never did me wrong when I used it years ago, in the frigid state of South Dakota during the winter or summer.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: walterjay] #5279155 11/27/19 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LotI
QSUD for lower NOACK

Originally Posted by walterjay
QSUD for the moly.

As much as I like Chevron, I'd have to go with QSUD as well.
My Chevy truck and SUV like QSUD and are ultra-quiet with it in the sump.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5279166 11/27/19 06:33 PM
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Up north I would us QSUD 0w-20


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: kschachn] #5279169 11/27/19 06:37 PM
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QSUD all the way.

Havoline made my engine make too much noise so I drained it and put in QSAD 5w20 and it's much quieter now.

I will never run Havoline again.
Originally Posted by kschachn


Do you have this on cut-and-paste? You sure post it a lot.



I do it just to annoy you.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5279172 11/27/19 06:44 PM
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I ran both QSUD and Havoline in the last year. No difference the TBN came back slightly better on the QSUD. Other than that well I'll use both of them again depending on what's on sale.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: SteveG4] #5279175 11/27/19 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG4
Originally Posted by LotI
QSUD for lower NOACK

Originally Posted by walterjay
QSUD for the moly.

As much as I like Chevron, I'd have to go with QSUD as well.
My Chevy truck and SUV like QSUD and are ultra-quiet with it in the sump.



+1 QSUD In 5w20 is awesome...on paper and in an engine.

For me it’s not even a consideration between the two choices the OP is looking at.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Mr_Luke] #5279180 11/27/19 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Luke
I do it just to annoy you.

Nah, I think there is another reason.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: kschachn] #5279187 11/27/19 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Mr_Luke
I do it just to annoy you.

Nah, I think there is another reason.


I see this as unnecessary harassment.

Welcome to my ignore list.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Mr_Luke] #5279209 11/27/19 07:42 PM
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What did you want me to say? I do think there is another reason.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5279523 11/28/19 08:03 AM
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Going with QSUD next OCI

Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5280248 11/29/19 08:50 AM
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I use both, the Fusion gets Havoline bag in a box because the sump is 5.8 qts, and 6qt packaging works great. The f150 gets two jugs of QSUD because its good oil at a great price.


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Mr_Luke] #5280581 11/29/19 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Luke
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Mr_Luke
I do it just to annoy you.

Nah, I think there is another reason.


I see this as unnecessary harassment.

Welcome to my ignore list.

There may be "another reason". But I too have never run a Chevron product I liked the performance of - including Havoline DS.

It's a totally worthless opinion for others - but I'm sticking to it.:)


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Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: 1978elcamino] #5280702 11/29/19 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1978elcamino
I use both, the Fusion gets Havoline bag in a box because the sump is 5.8 qts, and 6qt packaging works great. The f150 gets two jugs of QSUD because its good oil at a great price.


In the absence of any 'proof' of one being any higher quality than the other.....this seems like the most reasonable approach.

Re: Havoline ProDS vs QSUD [Re: Speak2Mountain] #5280853 11/30/19 05:11 AM
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Ran both oils with no difference, go solely off cheaper price. More QSUD is in my stash to use tho.

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