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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5128631
06/08/19 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
New and improved but you never get a guarantee this oil will give your car 50,000 more miles of life?


It would be interesting to see good stats on why 27 million vehicles per year worldwide enter the salvage yard phase of life before being crushed.
My perception from Pick-a-parts is that it's not often due to engine failures, and that it might actually be 4th place after crash damage, corrosion, and failed transmissions.

Last edited by nascarnation; 06/08/19 02:39 PM.
Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: MrMoody] #5128657
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Originally Posted by MrMoody
So, no SO? smile
Somebody would confuse it with Esso oil.


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: RayCJ] #5128670
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Originally Posted by RayCJ


So, what happens when you put 0w16 oil in a car that calls for 0w20 or 5w30? Is it like on Ghostbusters when the beams cross? If so, I would think the shield emblem should have a warning statement.

Ray


The members of the Marvel Universe S.H.I.E.L.D jump out of the weeds and prevent people from pouring 0W-16 into their engines. laugh

Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: RayCJ] #5128681
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Originally Posted by RayCJ
So, what happens when you put 0w16 oil in a car that calls for 0w20 or 5w30?

Ever see those videos of thermite on an engine block?


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Urshurak776] #5128807
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Wait until someone dumps 0w16 in a Euro car that specs 5w40 crush


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: GumbyJarvis] #5128829
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LOL


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: addyguy] #5128830
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Originally Posted by addyguy
I like the idea of a completely different marking to set 0W-16 oils apart from other grades. Good job API.

The new API SP oils still won't be marketed for another full year, LOL. SN has been around for, what, 10+ years now?

Is API SN the longest-running classification?


True, but API SN+ is the newer that SN line. SP? Make me wonder what happened to SO.


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Urshurak776] #5128835
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Its not the first time API skipped on the alphabet. There was no SI or SK either.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: TiredTrucker] #5128869
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Originally Posted by TiredTrucker
Originally Posted by addyguy
I like the idea of a completely different marking to set 0W-16 oils apart from other grades. Good job API.

The new API SP oils still won't be marketed for another full year, LOL. SN has been around for, what, 10+ years now?

Is API SN the longest-running classification?


True, but API SN+ is the newer that SN line. SP? Make me wonder what happened to SO.


I and O look too much like 1 and 0, so I and O aren't used - pretty much industry standard nomenclature practice. Not sure why they didn't use K.

Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Urshurak776] #5129006
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I remember API said that SI got skipped because of the SI units.

I'm not sure about SK but I'm thinking it's because of SK Energy. I had thought it could be because of Slovakia but that's not it.

I don't know why SO got skipped.

'Note: The letters “SI” and “SK” have been omitted from the sequence of letter designators for API Service Categories because of their common association with other organizations or systems.'


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Gokhan] #5130083
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Originally Posted by Gokhan
I remember API said that SI got skipped because of the SI units.

I'm not sure about SK but I'm thinking it's because of SK Energy. I had thought it could be because of Slovakia but that's not it.

I don't know why SO got skipped.

'Note: The letters “SI” and “SK” have been omitted from the sequence of letter designators for API Service Categories because of their common association with other organizations or systems.'


In my day job, I write and edit technical publications and we skip the revision letters " I, O, Q, S and Z" because they can sometimes be confused by the end users as numbers at first glance.


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5130123
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
New and improved but you never get a guarantee this oil will give your car 50,000 more miles of life?


Indeed, because motor oil is responsible for the service life of everything else on your vehicle which can break. cool


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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Gokhan] #5130153
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Originally Posted by Gokhan
I don't know why SO got skipped.


Is that S "oh" or S "zero" ? That's why they skip the letter "O" (and others - Hootbro explains more).

Remember, consider someone that's not very familiar with API designations. Just because you know it's two letters doesn't mean everyone else does.

Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: MrMoody] #5130277
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Originally Posted by MrMoody
So, no SO? smile

SO looks too much like S0.. so maybe they skipped it to avoid confusion? I don't think there's an SI oil rating either.

EDIT - Guess I should have read down further before I replied
LOL

Last edited by SirTanon; 06/10/19 01:13 PM.

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Re: API SP rating announced. [Re: Urshurak776] #5130281
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Maybe people would think that SK oil really sucked?
;^)


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