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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: SHOZ] #5078392
04/18/19 02:25 AM
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Send a sample to blackstone


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: Gasbuggy] #5078535
04/18/19 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gasbuggy
Send a sample to blackstone
I'm already out $13 and am quite certain it is not as labeled.....


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: atikovi] #5078541
04/18/19 08:04 AM
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Been happening more and more.

Originally Posted by atikovi
Somebody changed their oil, filled the jug with the old oil and returned it for a refund.

Re: Beware of tampering [Re: Greggy_D] #5078549
04/18/19 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Greggy_D
I check every single plastic seal before I buy.


Same ... and look at the sight window - at least you'd see dirty oil that way - maybe not with this slickster means ...
Of course the foil seal or no deal (it's got to go back then) ...

Knock on wood - not burned yet ...

Re: Beware of tampering [Re: SHOZ] #5078563
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Some brands are easier to detect tampering. Valvoline’s new jugs with the clear cap that shows the seal underneath is great. Chevron’s new Havoline Smart Change should show any tampering right away.


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: Kestas] #5078753
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Originally Posted by Kestas
Pretty slick substituting hydraulic fluid for the oil, if that's what happened. That would pass scrutinization by any clerk.

But the broken seal should not have.


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: SHOZ] #5078815
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Thanks for the heads up. I’m often not as careful as I should be with such things. I’m a “grab it and go guy”


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: SHOZ] #5078878
04/18/19 01:57 PM
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Here's the rub: if you break the ring and remove the cap in order to be sure the foil seal is intact, you cannot return the product. So be sure you are buying something that you will definitely be using.


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: DGXR] #5078901
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Originally Posted by DGXR
Here's the rub: if you break the ring and remove the cap in order to be sure the foil seal is intact, you cannot return the product. So be sure you are buying something that you will definitely be using.




This is good advice but these gamers know how to make that cap look and feel sealed. They are conniving critters. If the cap is a solid color like most are then that adds to the difficulty of checking the internal seal.

Why the oil companies haven’t all gone to transparent caps or used a shrink wrap on the outside of the cap is baffling.


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: Cujet] #5079027
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Originally Posted by Cujet
Thanks for the heads up. I’m often not as careful as I should be with such things. I’m a “grab it and go guy”


This. I just bought 3 jugs of Delo 400 XSP 5w/40 for my boat and ATV the other day and didn't check the cap before leaving WM. Fortunately they were all intact.


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Re: Beware of tampering [Re: JLTD] #5080442
04/20/19 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Oil buyer beware at WM....recurring theme.

Another reason I'm not inclined to go there for my oil.


Not just oil. I checked a gallon container of Zerex Asian Blue. It had been opened and refilled with visibly darker used blue coolant. I check everything from WM now.

Re: Beware of tampering [Re: SHOZ] #5080824
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Yeah, and when you return it they look at you like you're the one who swapped it. Honesty is becoming scarcer.


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