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Sludged filter #4809623
07/09/18 08:30 PM
07/09/18 08:30 PM
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FEMA Region 4
jk_636 Offline OP
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Viewer discretion advised, those with weak constitutions....look away now. sick

While on vacation a good friend of mine who is not mechanically inclined asked me to take a look at his 2010 Chevy cobalt.

The complaint? Engine “shakes” and races at stop.

Inspection of dipstick revealed clumpy sludge, with no oil reading....

We decided to change the little oil that was left.

When we pulled the cartridge filter this is what we found...



Unsure of how old the filter is or how many miles were on the oil.

Best i can figure this may have been a 3+ year 30,000 mile OCI, with Amsoil as the last known fill.

I would say it was in full bypass, but the bottom of the filter housing had about an inch of standing sludge so who knows?


2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4.7 (Supertech 5w30 + OCOD)

2012 Ford Escape 3.0 (Royal Purple 0w20 + Fram Ultra)
Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809628
07/09/18 08:36 PM
07/09/18 08:36 PM
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North Carolina
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Very nice.


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809633
07/09/18 08:39 PM
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Local Chevy dealership in 3 days: CPO Chevy Cobalt - one owner - clean Carfax


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809635
07/09/18 08:41 PM
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can the friend rear?
ever owned a mechanical machine?
its his problem


These products are all new every year?? They are a revolution!!! Razor blades, mens shirts, TVs, wiper blades, gutter guards, hearing aids... according to the ads. But also all new last year
Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809636
07/09/18 08:42 PM
07/09/18 08:42 PM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
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Pay now for a decent oil change or pay a whole lot more for an engine or rebuild later.
This is what happens trying to squeeze every last mile out of the oil and filter. shrug


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: parshisa] #4809642
07/09/18 08:47 PM
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jk_636 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: parshisa
Local Chevy dealership in 3 days: CPO Chevy Cobalt - one owner - clean Carfax


One owner....clean carfax.... LOL


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2012 Ford Escape 3.0 (Royal Purple 0w20 + Fram Ultra)
Re: Sludged filter [Re: edwardh1] #4809648
07/09/18 08:55 PM
07/09/18 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: edwardh1
can the friend rear?
ever owned a mechanical machine?
its his problem

Can the friend even OCI?


03 Jetta AWP/09A 200k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809650
07/09/18 09:01 PM
07/09/18 09:01 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
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He needs to follow the three month, 3000 mile OCI. After the engine is clean. Keep it simple!



Respectfully,


Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

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Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
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Re: Sludged filter [Re: Pajero] #4809662
07/09/18 09:15 PM
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Massachusetts
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I thought amsoil is supposed to be able to go 25k miles. Do you have a picture of the drained oil?

This is why I like running the biggest filter possible



Last edited by turtlevette; 07/09/18 09:19 PM.

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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809665
07/09/18 09:17 PM
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I had a sludged up filter in a 2008 2.2L Cobalt. Used PP 5W-30, and Bosch filter. It was run in the winter for 3,000 miles, for 6 months. Cold winter to -30C and short trips. Wasn't nearly as bad as this one but the filter was starting to collapse.


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809666
07/09/18 09:18 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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I'm sure that mess went through everything. The bearings will be down to the copper etc.


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809673
07/09/18 09:26 PM
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That filter still had life in it.


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809688
07/09/18 09:38 PM
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Staten Island, NY
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I can still see pleats

You worry too much.... grin


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Re: Sludged filter [Re: jk_636] #4809708
07/09/18 09:57 PM
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Marshfield , MA
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A series of 3k OCIs is gonna do anything significant for that mess? Really How many changes will it take to clean that mess up?


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Sludged filter [Re: Chris142] #4809714
07/09/18 10:01 PM
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FEMA Region 4
jk_636 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I thought amsoil is supposed to be able to go 25k miles. Do you have a picture of the drained oil?



Oh yeah thats right...maybe he should call Amsoil and see if they will provide him a new engine... crazy


I don't have a picture of the drained oil...but about a quart and change drained with the consistency of room temp honey and had that acidic nasty smell.





Originally Posted By: Chris142
I'm sure that mess went through everything. The bearings will be down to the copper etc.


I can only imagine . I wish I would have saved a sample for a UOA from Blackstone, but it didn't cross my mind at the time.


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2012 Ford Escape 3.0 (Royal Purple 0w20 + Fram Ultra)
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