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Caveat Emptor... #4785351
06/12/18 10:29 PM
06/12/18 10:29 PM
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69Torino Offline OP
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I use K&N oil and air filters on all of my cars. I sometimes cruise eBay for my particular part numbers, and sometimes get lucky and score a K&N HP series filter that fits my junk for under $10 shipped. This time I found an HP-1004, that fits my Optima and would also work on the wifeís Capri convertible, and if Iím feeling extra hotrod-like, also fits the zero turn mower. I won it for $1 plus $5 shipping, no big deal, and it arrived today in a non padded envelope. The box was torn up pretty good, but hey... itís a K&N. Itís thick and strong and can get tossed around a bit and be ok. I open the box up and find a dented up Fram PH3593A. Well nuts. If it wasnít all dented up I would have just chalked it up to experience and used it on the zero turn. But I donít use dented filters. Oh well. Live, learn, and experience stuff. That is all. Feel better now that Iíve shared my $6 lesson. Good day folks.


1969 Ford Torino GT 390 Auto
2003 Mercury Marauder
1992 Mercury Capri Convertible
2005 Ford Freestyle
2008 Hyundai Santa Fe
1947 Ford 2N
1978 Honda XL75
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Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785356
06/12/18 10:36 PM
06/12/18 10:36 PM
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Get your money back; very easy to do on eBay.


2018 Mercedes Benz AMG GLC43 3.0L Bi-Turbo [Castrol Edge 0W-40 & MB (Purflux) filter]
2018 Mercedes Benz C300 2.0L Turbo [Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40 & Mann filter]
Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785363
06/12/18 10:50 PM
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There comming...............

You need to hang around here more. I wonít go into the quality issue of the k&n filters but 6 bucks is no bargain. Especially when you could get one on an oil change special for that much without much effort.


Sparks fly from my fingers.

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Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785431
06/13/18 02:33 AM
06/13/18 02:33 AM
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So Cal
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Report this to eBay and get your hard earned money back. We don't need bad sellers like this

Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785457
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69Torino Offline OP
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Emailed the seller and explained. Politely asked for a refund. Weíll see how it goes.


1969 Ford Torino GT 390 Auto
2003 Mercury Marauder
1992 Mercury Capri Convertible
2005 Ford Freestyle
2008 Hyundai Santa Fe
1947 Ford 2N
1978 Honda XL75
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Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785539
06/13/18 07:19 AM
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Just a "data point" question.

You're in Indianapolis....from HOW FAR AWAY did the dented Fram come?

That's all...just the distance. Thx

Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785540
06/13/18 07:19 AM
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Mahzurrah!
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There is a process to get your refund through ebay. Highly recommend that route. Plus you should get a full refund that way, not a buck. But not thinking you'd have much luck dealing direct anyway with a seller that puts a Fram in the package for a KN Filter listing.


2018 VW Passat GT VR6 - 10k - Castrol Professional 5w40 - VW OEM filter
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Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4785596
06/13/18 08:20 AM
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Take a picture of filter with envelope and use "return" on your auction. You'll have the $6 back.

Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: Kira] #4785938
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69Torino Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Kira
Just a "data point" question.

You're in Indianapolis....from HOW FAR AWAY did the dented Fram come?

That's all...just the distance. Thx



Prospect, Ohio. 191 miles away.

Last edited by 69Torino; 06/13/18 02:21 PM.

1969 Ford Torino GT 390 Auto
2003 Mercury Marauder
1992 Mercury Capri Convertible
2005 Ford Freestyle
2008 Hyundai Santa Fe
1947 Ford 2N
1978 Honda XL75
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Re: Caveat Emptor... [Re: 69Torino] #4787551
06/15/18 02:49 PM
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Indiana
Not a big fan of K&N filters after one I cut open for a friend and I found it had failed.

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