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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: pscholte] #4753490 05/10/18 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: pscholte
As one who stands guilty of having, at times, gone for the more rarely seen oils in the US, I recommend you spend your money on the better known, more often used products like Pennzoil/Shell, Castrol or M1


Weve all been there. When I first got my X5 I went with Liqui-Moly. Bought their advertising hook, line and sinker. Realized I could get better oil down the street for much less at WM.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4753521 05/10/18 08:18 PM
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Ironically, some LM stuff isn't priced too badly up here, at least at regular price, where it's competitive. Now, finding a special is another matter.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: RobM] #4753537 05/10/18 08:34 PM
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I used this oil over 10 years ago and it appears they have not updated the formulation. It has 50-70% PAO content, but the additive package is outdated, in my opinion. They dont even recommend it for MB 229.5 or BMW LL-01. Id choose Castrol 0W-40 or 0W-30 over it.

Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: RobM] #4753680 05/11/18 12:48 AM
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Only, and I really mean it, ONLY thing that Liqui Moly is good at is marketing. They figure out how to put oversized Made in Germany letters in front and half of drivers of German cars [censored] their pants.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: IllinoisSparky] #4753804 05/11/18 06:00 AM
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[quote=RobM]...and it is not "Full Synthetic" per Euro rules. It is a dino/syn blend.


It says "fully synthetic" on the label, which suggests it isn't a dino/syn blend.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: weasley] #4753857 05/11/18 06:55 AM
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...and it is not "Full Synthetic" per Euro rules. It is a dino/syn blend.

It says "fully synthetic" on the label, which suggests it isn't a dino/syn blend.

And there are no "Euro rules."


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: RobM] #4753935 05/11/18 08:01 AM
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I'm sticking with M1 and/or Castrol, I don't feel a need to try it.

Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: RobM] #4754703 05/12/18 12:18 AM
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Liqui Moly 0W40 is PAO based oil. However, it is PERFECT example that final product is what matters, not what base is made of. It does not meet MB229.5, it does not meet BMW LL-01.
On other hand, Liqui Moly Leichtlauf 5W40 High Tech is Group III and meets MB229.5 and BMW LL-01.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: kschachn] #4754704 05/12/18 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
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Originally Posted By: IllinoisSparky
...and it is not "Full Synthetic" per Euro rules. It is a dino/syn blend.

It says "fully synthetic" on the label, which suggests it isn't a dino/syn blend.

And there are no "Euro rules."

There is German law, and people confuse it with it.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4757844 05/15/18 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: pscholte
As one who stands guilty of having, at times, gone for the more rarely seen oils in the US, I recommend you spend your money on the better known, more often used products like Pennzoil/Shell, Castrol or M1


Weve all been there. When I first got my X5 I went with Liqui-Moly. Bought their advertising hook, line and sinker. Realized I could get better oil down the street for much less at WM.


+1

Castrol 0w40 just makes sense. It meets manufacturer specs (LL-01), and is easier and cheaper to get. If I wanted a more expensive oil I'd just get the BMW 5w30, but I'd have to drive past 2 WalMarts to get it.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: edyvw] #4760268 05/17/18 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
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Originally Posted By: IllinoisSparky
...and it is not "Full Synthetic" per Euro rules. It is a dino/syn blend.

It says "fully synthetic" on the label, which suggests it isn't a dino/syn blend.

And there are no "Euro rules."

There is German law, and people confuse it with it.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: RobM] #4761226 05/18/18 04:09 PM
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Whenever I see someone who is willing to pay a much higher price for German engine oil, I think of the tuning scene and the gimmicks they buy. These kinds of people will also buy German brands of 75w90 gear oil despite the fact that Mobil1 would be perfect in their situation. If the state they live in doesn't require a front license plate, they buy a super wide license plate that would be used in Germany.

The only time I would bother with getting German oil is if I needed to deal with an odd specification for transmission fluid or power steering fluid. For example, I am looking at the Winnebago Rialta which is a VW Eurovan based RV. Some of them use a tan colored ATF. In that situation, I would feel fine paying extra to get some kind of German brand, such as Pentosin. Also, many cars call for Pentosin CHF11S or Pentosin CHF202, synthetic power steering fluids that are green in color, and I might be buying that.

I wasn't into that, and that may have partially explained why I used Shell in my VW Jetta.

I have to wonder something. Why is it that some people can be so deeply interested in Japanese cars, yet not seem to be interested in Idemitsu or Eneos? I figured people would want that kind of oil in their car as much as they would want a license plate with their engine and chassis code on it.


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Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: artificialist] #4761269 05/18/18 04:52 PM
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You dont buy an Accord for boasting. You buy it as a pleasant, reliable transportation method. And you service it at the dealer since the prices are reasonable. Dealer oil is known to work, no need to chase exotics. Owning a japanese car does not involve any drama.

Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: nap] #4761907 05/19/18 10:42 AM
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Super-Duper thread. I was wondering about Liqui-Moly....now I'm not.

Re: Liqui Moly 0w-40 [Re: Kira] #4767888 05/25/18 12:29 PM
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Super-Duper thread. I was wondering about Liqui-Moly....now I'm not.


Same here. I was really interested to learn about it, since I saw a race team using it at the Mid-Ohio Continental Sports Car Challenge. They even had a little stand set up in front of their pit with Liqui-Moly products on it.

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