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Valugard Rust Proofing #4750883
05/08/18 07:41 AM
05/08/18 07:41 AM
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Indiana
Phishin Offline OP
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Indiana
I want some rust protection for my new truck: 2018 Silverado 3500. Indiana winters are SALTY.

My local Line-X dealer and truck accessory shop offers Valugard as their rust proofing product.

It's an asphalt based undercarriage product and a separate "waxy" solution sprayed in the doors and fenders. Anyone have any experience with this product? I think he said it would be $400-$500 to coat the truck. It's a one-time deal with a life-time guarantee.

Don't give me the the "Fluid Film" answer. I'm NOT doing this to my truck....not because I don't like the product, but because I don't have the time to do it 2 times a year.

Last edited by Phishin; 05/08/18 07:42 AM.

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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4750894
05/08/18 08:09 AM
05/08/18 08:09 AM
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SW Ontario Canada
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Coatings don't work.

Research Krown or Rust-Check. These must be applied 1x per year to qualify for warranty.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: KGMtech] #4750914
05/08/18 08:37 AM
05/08/18 08:37 AM
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Michigan
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My rust-free Ď95 Dakota convinces me that Krown works. Iím a loyal customer at the Sarnia, ON, shop, but there are now a couple of U.S. shops, one of which is in Monroe, MI. You canít buy much rear-quarter metal and paint work for the cost of the annual resprays. If youíre in northern Indiana, you should probably do it if you intend to keep the truck for the long haul.

Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4750918
05/08/18 08:41 AM
05/08/18 08:41 AM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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Krown, CarWell (same as Krown) or Fluid Film are the well known products. Need to be redone once a year. Around $100 is what I pay for CarWell. Just did Forester and F250.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4750919
05/08/18 08:41 AM
05/08/18 08:41 AM
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Canuck living in California
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Avoid any asphalt type undercoating. They can actually accelerate the corrosion process once the coating dries up and starts to crack.

Oil based rustproofing works, the downside is you have to apply it once a year. If you don't want to deal with the hassle, then I would suggest leaving the truck as is.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4750993
05/08/18 09:47 AM
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The age old "Quaker Coat Metal Guard" was good stuff.It seemed like a snotty mix of wax and petroleum.Stayed soft and went on thick.Sad it cant be had anymore.

Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751050
05/08/18 10:55 AM
05/08/18 10:55 AM
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Somewhere in time
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Originally Posted By: Phishin
My local Line-X dealer and truck accessory shop offers Valugard as their rust proofing product.

Any product in which they misspell both 'value' and 'guard' is most likely neither.

Originally Posted By: Phishin
Don't give me the the "Fluid Film" answer. I'm NOT doing this to my truck....not because I don't like the product, but because I don't have the time to do it 2 times a year.

Does it seem odd to you that you're asking for a recommendation but eliminating the best product for the application?
These products do not require twice a year application.
Maybe you need to complete a cost-benefit analysis and gauge whether the once yearly appointment and a day of inconvenience (plus yearly cost) is worth it to prevent the rust you seem so concerned about.
Only you can come to a conclusion for your particular circumstances.
Generally if you plan these things in advance, they aren't particularly inconvenient.

As always, YMMV. thumbsup


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751054
05/08/18 10:59 AM
05/08/18 10:59 AM
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Central NY
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Central NY
Krown or fluidfilm and that's it.

There's a lot of rotboxes in the junkyard at 10 years old with Ziebart stickers


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751078
05/08/18 11:17 AM
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Buffalo, NY
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I had a truck done with the black tacky stuff back in the early 1990's from a truck accessory shop. It looked nice, but I only owned that truck for a year or two, so it was a complete waste.

I keep hearing great things about Krown and shops seem to be popping up everywhere now. I would think even an application of Krown every other year would be a lot better than nothing for those of us in the rust belt.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Imp4] #4751082
05/08/18 11:23 AM
05/08/18 11:23 AM
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Indiana
Phishin Offline OP
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Indiana
Originally Posted By: Imp4
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Does it seem odd to you that you're asking for a recommendation but eliminating the best product for the application?


What I meant was, I'm not applying the rust proofing product myself in my driveway. I don't want to do that. Sounds like it's in my best interest to drive the 2 hours each way to my nearest Krown installer.

So, since this Krown product works so well because it creeps and seeps into seams, should I have it sprayed in July to let the hot weather provide better penetration? Or wait until October/November, right before the snow and salt starts flying?


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: JTK] #4751091
05/08/18 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: JTK
I had a truck done with the black tacky stuff back in the early 1990's from a truck accessory shop. It looked nice, but I only owned that truck for a year or two, so it was a complete waste.

I keep hearing great things about Krown and shops seem to be popping up everywhere now. I would think even an application of Krown every other year would be a lot better than nothing for those of us in the rust belt.


Has to be every year if you want to ensure it never rusts. It always washes off the chassis, this is more apparent on the frames of trucks.

I get what you are saying, but what is the point in oil spraying a rusty car.


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751135
05/08/18 12:14 PM
05/08/18 12:14 PM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: Phishin
Originally Posted By: Imp4
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Does it seem odd to you that you're asking for a recommendation but eliminating the best product for the application?


What I meant was, I'm not applying the rust proofing product myself in my driveway. I don't want to do that. Sounds like it's in my best interest to drive the 2 hours each way to my nearest Krown installer.

So, since this Krown product works so well because it creeps and seeps into seams, should I have it sprayed in July to let the hot weather provide better penetration? Or wait until October/November, right before the snow and salt starts flying?


The Carwell company suggests to spray first thing in the spring. You do not need hot weather for the stuff to creep and seep, just not freezing. The shop I go to opens back up in April.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751152
05/08/18 12:30 PM
05/08/18 12:30 PM
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NY
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NY
Originally Posted By: Phishin
Originally Posted By: Imp4
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Does it seem odd to you that you're asking for a recommendation but eliminating the best product for the application?


What I meant was, I'm not applying the rust proofing product myself in my driveway. I don't want to do that. Sounds like it's in my best interest to drive the 2 hours each way to my nearest Krown installer.

So, since this Krown product works so well because it creeps and seeps into seams, should I have it sprayed in July to let the hot weather provide better penetration? Or wait until October/November, right before the snow and salt starts flying?
oh yeah I would definitely drive the two hours. Also get i would get it done while it's still warm. Maybe not now but it's better to get the stuff applied initially before all the dirt and dust stick to the frame and underside.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: Phishin] #4751234
05/08/18 01:55 PM
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SW Ontario Canada
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Drive to Canada, pay Krown with your USD and get a nice 20+ % savings right off the top. Get some good Canadian beer and back bacon and you're set.


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Re: Valugard Rust Proofing [Re: KGMtech] #4751254
05/08/18 02:13 PM
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Canuck living in California
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Originally Posted By: KGMtech
Drive to Canada, pay Krown with your USD and get a nice 20+ % savings right off the top. Get some good Canadian beer and back bacon and you're set.


Without getting maple syrup the whole trip would be a state of time.


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