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#4692743 - 03/12/18 06:36 PM For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
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Loc: TX
I've been searching for what type oil is recommended for my dad's camry back in Russia. I was surprised to see huge selection of oil viscosities allowed. Then I looked at US version of the same model year (same engine, same everything) - surprise surprise - 0w20 only!!! Another proof of "very tight engine tolerances built for US market" lol



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#4692754 - 03/12/18 06:42 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 865
Loc: pa
typical government [censored]!! manufacturers are looking for that !/4 to 1/2 mpg regardless if your engine does NOT live as long!!!

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#4692755 - 03/12/18 06:44 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
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#4692762 - 03/12/18 06:46 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
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All this tells me is that this engine will run 300K miles on many viscosity. Just like it does in the U.S. on 0w20.
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#4692763 - 03/12/18 06:46 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: parshisa
Another proof of "very tight engine tolerances built for US market" lol


Exactly. Toyota engines destined for the U.S. market will have special tight clearances that thicker viscosity oils won't fit into -- or through.

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#4692766 - 03/12/18 06:48 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
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ANother interesting fact is that Toyota Russia limits the OCI for severe service to 5000km (a little over 3k mi) which I think is a right thing. In moscow traffic by the time you get 5k on oil it very well might be 300+ hours on it.
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#4692767 - 03/12/18 06:49 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
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Registered: 07/22/10
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LOL ... Yeah, Russia gets all the loose bearings coming off the production line.

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#4692769 - 03/12/18 06:50 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
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I think the little known fact is that automakers earn money with CAFE credit trading provisions here in the USA.
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#4692796 - 03/12/18 07:04 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
SR5 Offline


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In Australia for the Camry 2AR-FE, the suggestions from Valvoline are to use: 0W20, or 5W30 or 10W30, but they then go on to make the note
Quote:
May also use VALVOLINE PROFESSIONAL SERIES 15W-40, ENGINE ARMOUR SYNTHETIC TECHNOLOGY 15W-40, NEXTGEN 15W-40 or MAXLIFE 20W-50.


Since many small garages may only have one bulk tank of 15W40, which goes into everything here.
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#4692807 - 03/12/18 07:12 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
dblshock Offline


Registered: 04/24/07
Posts: 2655
Loc: WI.
the Russian spec posted above looks to be from a by gone era with SL or SM API certs


Edited by dblshock (03/12/18 07:12 PM)
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#4692824 - 03/12/18 07:21 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
CT8 Offline


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Loc: Idaho
Why were you surprised at the oil viscosity choice?
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#4692844 - 03/12/18 07:37 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
HondaBroMike Offline


Registered: 11/02/17
Posts: 312
All I know is 0w-20 isn't burning in my Honda. And the coup DE grais is I live in a tropical climate 8 out of 12 months.


Edited by HondaBroMike (03/12/18 07:38 PM)
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#4692846 - 03/12/18 07:39 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: wemay]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9395
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: wemay
All this tells me is that this engine will run 300K miles on many viscosity. Just like it does in the U.S. on 0w20.

Correct. If anything, that chart shows it doesn't matter.
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#4692860 - 03/12/18 07:53 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: parshisa]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1719
Loc: Alberta
You guys are taking advice from the Rooskies? laugh

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#4692868 - 03/12/18 08:01 PM Re: For those in doubt what viscosity OK to use [Re: skyactiv]
BHopkins Offline


Registered: 11/03/13
Posts: 1095
Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I think the little known fact is that automakers earn money with CAFE credit trading provisions here in the USA.


Are you sure they earn money with CAFE credits? My understanding is that they avoid paying penalties from missing CAFE standards.
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