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2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 #4656958
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I had my 30k service done at Volvo now in Arizona (where I bought the car) the dealer was using 5w-20 and the car states 5w-20. However, now I had the car serviced in VA and the dealer used 10W-30. The dealer stated that it's the correct weight for the location. I mean I am taking his word on it but in reality, is it?

Also, when I opened the oil cap the oil under the cap was still brown (shouldn't it be honey? if new oil?). The car doesn't have a dipstick so I can't check the color of the oil via dipstick. Yes I know that color doesn't mean anything but still if a new oil is added and the car is only driven 3 miles, shouldn't the color of the oil under the cap (at the engine portion not the cap portion) be at honey honey colored?

Finally, I want to keep the car as long as possible so what additives would you recommend (assuming I am doing 10k oil changes as recommended). I am currently using Liquid Moly 2009 formula but I was thinking of doing 50/50 liquid Moly and lubegard bio-tech (i.e. half the amount of liquid moly bottle will be replaced with bio-tech).

Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4656966
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No additives. Engines will last 200-400k with just regular oil changes. Just how long do you plan on keeping the car?

Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: Wolf359] #4656976
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My last 2002 Volvo S40 I've kept for 14 years, the only reason I had to get rid of it was because it got "totaled" (insurance guidance) in an accident.

HAHAH got it Lovering Nashua Volvo and the car has driven through multiple Northeast winters, then mid-atlantic ocean humidity followed by hot backed sun of Arizona just to die an untimely death due to sudden deaceleration of a pickup truck that ran a red.

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Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4656988
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10w30 will be fine. Most 10w30 is rated good for down to -25 or lower.


yup
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657024
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Volvo recommends a 0W or 5W-30 A5/B5 oil. I just had my 30k service done on my XC60 as well (at 21k) and I plan on using an A3/B4 0W-40 on 5k changes.

What 10W-30 did they use? If it wasn't a high quality synthetic oil I wouldn't try to push to 10k.

There is also an open service campaign for the spark plugs; they should change them for you free of charge to prevent pre ignition and misfires. 2 of my 4 plugs had broken insulators at 21k miles.

Nix the additives.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657028
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Good old 10w30 is the O negative blood type of the motor oil world. Put it in about anything and it will run just fine with no problems.


2018 VW Passat GT VR6 - 1k - New FF
12 KIA Sedona 93k - PP HM 10w30
09 Ford Focus 132k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
00 Chev Lumina 203k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee gone but not forgotten.
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: rooflessVW] #4657033
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Yeap they changed the sparkplugs I was at 28.5k on mine.

I am just kind of miffed that the engine air filter doesn't get changed until 40k, being from Arizona/NM area that thing is probably clogged to [censored]. I have bought a MEHNLE and will change it myself ($18 of AZAutoHouz vs $70 what the dealer wanted for just the filter). I hope that won't affect my warranty.


The dealer charges $105 for the oil change (so the next one will be steep) but I guess it's better if I do it there so they have all my records...especially that I have the 7 year / 100k warranty. I love changing the oilmyself since I have access to the hobby shop high bay area at the base but my wife won't let me touch the volvo and wants everything done at the dealer.

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Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657040
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I would at least want proof of what 10w30 they used. If they did that with the viscosity I wonder if they would use cheap bulk conventional.

Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657042
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I just had the third service taken care of and I'm doing all maintenance from here on out unless it's a warranty concern.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657111
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They're idiots. See my post in your other thread...

Probably the same service advisor who told me that "You can't use a 0W40 in your Volvo, it's way too thick, plus the oil is too thin on start up and the pump won't be able to build pressure...you'll wear out your turbo with that oil..."

So, these guys think that they're doing you a favor...giving you a 10W30 lets the pump build that critical pressure on a cold start...the 0W20 was just too thin to build pressure on a cold start...you know, because it's a zero...

crzy


32 Packard 15W40
02 Volvo V70 T5 0W40 M1
02 Volvo V70 XC 0W40 Edge
05 MB S600 0W40 M1
16 Tundra 1794 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: Astro14] #4657121
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I presume there is no real way to tell if the oil/filter was actually serviced/changed without dumping the oil out.

[censored] it.

Sigh.

Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: KCJeep] #4657129
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Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Good old 10w30 is the O negative blood type of the motor oil world.


Love it, can't be more accurate!


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 103K Napa 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 21K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 35k PP MIX, NG7047
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657188
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Originally Posted By: tempnexus
I had my 30k service done at Volvo now in Arizona (where I bought the car) the dealer was using 5w-20 and the car states 5w-20. However, now I had the car serviced in VA and the dealer used 10W-30. The dealer stated that it's the correct weight for the location. I mean I am taking his word on it but in reality, is it?

Also, when I opened the oil cap the oil under the cap was still brown (shouldn't it be honey? if new oil?). The car doesn't have a dipstick so I can't check the color of the oil via dipstick. Yes I know that color doesn't mean anything but still if a new oil is added and the car is only driven 3 miles, shouldn't the color of the oil under the cap (at the engine portion not the cap portion) be at honey honey colored?

Finally, I want to keep the car as long as possible so what additives would you recommend (assuming I am doing 10k oil changes as recommended). I am currently using Liquid Moly 2009 formula but I was thinking of doing 50/50 liquid Moly and lubegard bio-tech (i.e. half the amount of liquid moly bottle will be replaced with bio-tech).


See the other Volvo thread: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4656641/Re:_0w20_oil_for_2016_Volvo
Looks like a late model Volvo can use Valvoline full-syn 5w30 and Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 (both A5/B5).

About additives, you don't really need any. I do use the LM 2009 MOS2 during break-in, but thats about it.

That dealer is an idiot for putting in 10w30, and usually those are NOT full-syn oils, so you probably need to change it out in 3k miles to a proper full-syn 5w30 A5/B5. Actually any dexos1 Gen2 full-syn 5w30 or 0w30 will do fine in your engine but might just stick to A5/B5 since Valvoline full syn and Pennz Plat are so easy to find at walmart and amazon for cheap.

As discussed in the other threads, Volvo says to use 0w20 for "extreme conditions" in their 4-cylinder turbo engines, so you can always claim you don't have "extreme conditions" and just use an A5/B5 5w30 and keep the engine warranty intact.

Yes the oil should have been a light honey color or similar, nothing dark-ish like you saw. Makes me wonder if the dealership put in all new oil or mixed half new oil with old oil as some dealerships have been caught doing occasionally. Its nice to DIY oil changes because then you're in control and won't get scammed.

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Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657245
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Originally Posted By: tempnexus
The dealer charges $105 for the oil change...



'95 Chevy 1/2t 305 208k -NexGen Maxlife 5w-30, Wix filter
'89 Jeep Comanche 4.0 278k - GC 0w-30, Bosch LongLife filter
Re: 2016 Volvo XC60 dealer used 10W-30 instead of 5w-2 [Re: tempnexus] #4657263
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Those additives are useless, especially in a brand new car. And you should be especially careful with European engines, as they could be even worse with those "treatments" that mostly do nothing except waste your money.

The worst part, though, is no dipstick mad

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