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Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price #4629109
01/09/18 10:38 AM
01/09/18 10:38 AM
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Alfred_B Offline OP
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So, I'm looking to buy a used, newer year stick shift BMW with xDrive. Unfortunately for me, I would like to get an X5 but the only ones that were sold in the US seem to have been 3-series. Even more unfortunately, there is a very sparse selection that are 450+ miles away from me.

Are dealers willing to negotiate the price, etc. over long distance? How is the consideration deposited so that they hold the car for me to get there, inspect and close the deal?

I would like some feedback from BITOGers who have done this successfully.

Thanks.

Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629133
01/09/18 10:54 AM
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In my experience, some dealers/private owners can and/or will keep your deposit after several business days, usually 3 days(find out how many)if you decide to back out.

I have purchased(contingent) from out of town and would accept the vehicle upon inspection when I arrived. I was fortunate that the vehicles that I purchased were not misrepresented.


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Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629145
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Our oldest boy had a Beemer . He found a local independent mechanic to take care of it ( [censored] opposed to the BMW dealer ) .

He reached a point , when he took it in that the mechanic recommended he trade it in , rather than do the necessary repairs .

He traded it in for a smaller Lincoln .

So , were it me , I would run from a used Beemer .


Wyr
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Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629149
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Alfred_B Offline OP
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I'm not inclined to run away from a BMW as I already own one.

Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629179
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
So, I'm looking to buy a used, newer year stick shift BMW with xDrive. Unfortunately for me, I would like to get an X5 but the only ones that were sold in the US seem to have been 3-series.

Isn't the 2-series available with a stick as well?

Have you actually driven a newer 3-series manual? I havent, but from all i have read, it's not that great. All the nannies, CDV, and rev hang detract from the experience. As much as I am diehard stick fan (my 530i is stick), if I was to get a new BMW, I think I'd be leaning toward auto. BMW's trans programming is top notch.

Anyway, sorry about a little OT.



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Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629186
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As far as buying long distance, before you even begin price negotiations, go on a bmw forum and ask members about reputable euro repair shops in the area. Then contact the shop and ask them to do a PPI. Based on the results of PPI, you can then negotiate the price down.

There are also dedicated nationwide companies specializing in PPI, but I dont know how well they know BMWs.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629198
01/09/18 11:50 AM
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My friend does this as he has no time to purchase cars. His line of work negotiation though is what he is an expert at.

He purchases though with lower demand vehicles like a R300 (MB Minivan diesel) or Audi and BMW with manuals. He normally hires a company or local shop to review car and inspect before committing. He gets a decent price IMHO and it includes delivery to his door step from places like New Mexico and Florida to NH.

Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629245
01/09/18 12:36 PM
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Ive bought a car long distance before, negotiate via email or phone but make sure you get an email with the final agreement or estimates for the out the door sum, price plus any taxes and fees. in my case they took a $500 deposit on the phone with credit card and then i paid the remainder when i picked up the car.

Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629259
01/09/18 12:53 PM
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Only thing you can do is try. You're not in the best negotiating position, wanting a specific, low volume car and buying used from hundreds of miles away.


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Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: WyrTwister] #4629262
01/09/18 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: WyrTwister
Our oldest boy had a Beemer . He found a local independent mechanic to take care of it ( [censored] opposed to the BMW dealer ) .

He reached a point , when he took it in that the mechanic recommended he trade it in , rather than do the necessary repairs .

He traded it in for a smaller Lincoln .

So , were it me , I would run from a used Beemer .



What type of motorcycle was it? The OP is looking at cars...


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Quattro Pete] #4629264
01/09/18 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
So, I'm looking to buy a used, newer year stick shift BMW with xDrive. Unfortunately for me, I would like to get an X5 but the only ones that were sold in the US seem to have been 3-series.

Isn't the 2-series available with a stick as well?

Have you actually driven a newer 3-series manual? I havent, but from all i have read, it's not that great. All the nannies, CDV, and rev hang detract from the experience. As much as I am diehard stick fan (my 530i is stick), if I was to get a new BMW, I think I'd be leaning toward auto. BMW's trans programming is top notch.

Anyway, sorry about a little OT.



I drove a manual 340i with a raft of M Performance accessories and I thought the car drove very well; I was prepared to dislike it but I was pleasantly surprised.


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629268
01/09/18 12:57 PM
01/09/18 12:57 PM
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MCompact Offline
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
I'm not inclined to run away from a BMW as I already own one.


Hey! Always listen to the BMW expert who hasn't owned one.
Ditto for anyone who traded a BMW for a Lincoln. Ugh.


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629271
01/09/18 01:00 PM
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In 1992 I bought my E24 M6 from a dealer in Memphis, but I had driven the car and only the negotiations were long distance. When I worked at a dealer we did a lot of long distance deals, the only time we wanted money up front was for a special order or a dealer trade(rare, but it happens). As others have said, just get the hard numbers in writing.


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629285
01/09/18 01:13 PM
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A plane ticket and hotel is sometimes the cheapest way if its a significant amount.


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Re: Buying a car from faraway, negotiating price [Re: Alfred_B] #4629325
01/09/18 01:58 PM
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My Sonata was in Tucson, around 100 miles away. I sent an email asking for the OTD cost and they sent me it in a PDF, I was happy with it (no added fees like tint, paint protection, oil change package etc) so I emailed back that Id be there in the morning.


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