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Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? #4624821
01/05/18 12:17 PM
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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624829
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'real' car...?

Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624835
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I've had trucks totalled out by the insurance co because of appraisers quoting damage costs that are nowhere near what it ends up actually costing us to fix. Last one (older truck) appraiser said $18,000 to fix (we had it valued at 14k). We had it fixed...properly...for $6000. We were given all the paperwork of how the insurance co came up with the costs and salvage value..I now know why we pay so much for insurance. They farm every part of the process out and every part of it was done VERY poorly. My opinion is they total FAR too many vehicles based on poor info and outside appraisers covering their butts. This looks like a case of this.


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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624836
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It's sold at a boutique mall location. Where is the parts department? And service? Good luck. Wait for the tow truck. Try to buy a part for the car. Good luck, again. Insurance companies are raising the premiums as they gain experience with the cost of repairs that are to a large degree controlled by Tesla.

Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624846
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That is one of the worst places for crash damage on any car. There is no simple fixing it with a bolt on like the front fenders or a little welding. The door jamb area is like a frame rail that is involved in holding the rear suspension together.

Guy in the video is super annoying.

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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624860
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My 97 Suburban was salvaged in 2013 because the front grille is cracked and the front fender was dented. Probably they said they had to repaint the whole vehicle to match or something. When the vehicle has a blue book value of a couple grand at most I get it. The industry is messed up though, why salvage older cars like that.


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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624879
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Of course its harder.

look at what ford had to go through to get dealers and body shops to able to repair aluminum - its significant

Now make the whole car out of and see how tough it gets.

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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624884
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Body repair is likely another "Take it to Tesla or die" proposition.

Elon Musk never wants to see a Tesla serviced or repaired anywhere but Tesla, especially where collision work is concerned.

I wouldn't buy a regular ICE vehicle from a company like that.

Tesla is constantly finding ways to circumvent Mass. Right to repair laws.

Take it to Don Musk, or get your legs broken.


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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624890
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From what I've read, there's a back log of parts available for structural repairs on Teslas. Even though there are "approved" shops for them. As cool as I think they are, they certainly remind me of Apple or Samsung for service. The insurance industry for a while was totalling out Prii, they figure a Prius ain't nothing special - and body shops didn't get their bodymen trained on how to handle them. There was a glut of Prius parts on Copart and LKQ for that reason.

The only fluids a Tesla or any electric car has is coolant, brake fluid and maybe drivetrain lubricant.

Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: DoubleWasp] #4624892
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Body repair is likely another "Take it to Tesla or die" proposition.

Elon Musk never wants to see a Tesla serviced or repaired anywhere but Tesla, especially where collision work is concerned.

I wouldn't buy a regular ICE vehicle from a company like that.

Tesla is constantly finding ways to circumvent Mass. Right to repair laws.

Take it to Don Musk, or get your legs broken.


To be a little fair to them... I'd like to make sure whoever is repairing it is trained/certified to do body repairs on that type of vehicle. They need to make sure there is no damage to the batteries or anything that could cause fires. But I see what you're saying.

Regular auto dealers are a little mafia like as well haha. "Can't setup a new dealer within X miles of my dealer". "we own this town".

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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624894
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
It's sold at a boutique mall location. Where is the parts department? And service? Good luck. Wait for the tow truck.

I personally like how Tesla is disrupting car sales - sure, it sucks losing good jobs at the service departments of dealerships but Sonic/Hendrick/AutoNation/Fletcher Jones/etc aren't angels.

Toyota is taking some notice via LexusPlus - one negotiated price and one point of contact for the whole process. No haggling, and certainly no talking to a sales manager.

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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: DoubleWasp] #4624895
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A very expensive golf cart.


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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: Dallas69] #4624898
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Originally Posted By: Dallas69
A fast expensive golf cart.


Fixed that for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOuOulH02bs


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Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4624899
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For the same money for a Tesla.... you can buy a real car like a BMW or Benz.

Re: Tesla more expensive to repair than a real car? [Re: DoubleWasp] #4624902
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Body repair is likely another "Take it to Tesla or die" proposition.

Elon Musk never wants to see a Tesla serviced or repaired anywhere but Tesla, especially where collision work is concerned.

I wouldn't buy a regular ICE vehicle from a company like that.

Tesla is constantly finding ways to circumvent Mass. Right to repair laws.

Take it to Don Musk, or get your legs broken.

Not quite - you are either trained and certified to work on it or not. Kind of like F150 repairs at the moment.

Not circumvent the masses - control their own distribution network and supply chain.

The masses do not buy his products.

I have no problem dealing directly with the manufacturers and prefer it it many case.

The good ole boy dealer network never did anything for me I didn't over pay them for to begin with.

When doing what the masses do you have to do what they lobbied and control - go through a third party to buy and service your product.

UD

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