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0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil #4594476
12/04/17 09:48 PM
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Hi Guys,

What are your thoughts on following 0W40 oils...

Cars were always fed M1 or German Castrol

Thinking about going with Pennzoil 0W40 same price as M1 at Walmart

All oils meet A40 spec or LL-04 as required for my cars

I feel like Pennzoil is best for cleaning power smile???

Thank;s

Last edited by Ndx; 12/04/17 09:50 PM.
Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594524
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They are all the same. You won’t notice any difference between any of them


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594533
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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594537
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What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594556
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Pennzoil has a $10 rebate. I have ran all of those oils in my Volkswagens. They can't tell.


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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594576
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0W-40 is only for German cars. BMW, Benz, Porsche, and VW.

Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS] #4594610
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


I think you may be talking about Pennzoil "Ultra Platinum" (SRT) 0w40.

Pennzoil Platinum Euro should have ACEA and API specs as well as the Euro manufacturer approvals.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS] #4594815
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


Yes, Pennzoil Platinum Euro does not have LL-01 certification. But it does have:
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ACEA A3/B3-10, ACEA A3/B4-10
API SN/CF


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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS] #4594835
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.

Really?

Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4594858
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I think where Falcon LS is they only get the SRT version of the 0w40.


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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4594872
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Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

I have used M1, and Penzoil in my VW over the years. My car likes the Castrol 0w40 the best thus far. I change it out every 5k miles.


Jeff

Last edited by Jeffs2006EvoIX; 12/05/17 10:48 AM.

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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX] #4594877
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Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

Pennzoil Euro Oils - 2 in 0W weights


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08 MB SL550 M1 0W-40/MB
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Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS] #4594880
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS

If you're looking for LL-01, Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


Euro 5W-40 has LL-01 see link below.
Hope that helps.

Pennzoil Euro 5W-40 has LL-01 Approval


04 Ford Explorer PP 5W-30/Puro PSL
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08 MB SL550 M1 0W-40/MB
09 BMW X5 3.0i BMW 5W-30/Mann
11 MB E350 Bluetec MB 5W-30/MB
Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX] #4594958
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Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

I have used M1, and Penzoil in my VW over the years. My car likes the Castrol 0w40 the best thus far. I change it out every 5k miles.


Jeff


My local Wal-Mart has the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 in the 5 qt jugs.


2016 VW Tiguan|APR Stage 1|Neuspeed P-Flo|Osram CBI|Redline 5w30
Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx] #4594990
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Originally Posted By: Ndx

All oils meet A40 spec or LL-04 as required for my cars


Some meet LL-01, some meet LL-04. They are not interchangeable, at least here in NA.


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