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#4594476 - 12/04/17 09:48 PM 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil
Ndx Offline


Registered: 04/04/08
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Loc: IL
Hi Guys,

What are your thoughts on following 0W40 oils...

Cars were always fed M1 or German Castrol

Thinking about going with Pennzoil 0W40 same price as M1 at Walmart

All oils meet A40 spec or LL-04 as required for my cars

I feel like Pennzoil is best for cleaning power smile???

Thank;s


Edited by Ndx (12/04/17 09:50 PM)

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#4594524 - 12/04/17 11:01 PM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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#4594533 - 12/04/17 11:24 PM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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#4594537 - 12/04/17 11:51 PM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.
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#4594556 - 12/05/17 01:14 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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Pennzoil has a $10 rebate. I have ran all of those oils in my Volkswagens. They can't tell.
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#4594576 - 12/05/17 02:30 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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0W-40 is only for German cars. BMW, Benz, Porsche, and VW.

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#4594610 - 12/05/17 04:46 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS]
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Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10058
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


I think you may be talking about Pennzoil "Ultra Platinum" (SRT) 0w40.

Pennzoil Platinum Euro should have ACEA and API specs as well as the Euro manufacturer approvals.
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#4594815 - 12/05/17 09:52 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS]
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Registered: 05/27/08
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
What application is this for? A40 contradicts LL-04, and none of these are low SAPS oils.

If you're looking for LL-01, then you go for the Castrol. Mobil 1 no longer carries the certification. Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


Yes, Pennzoil Platinum Euro does not have LL-01 certification. But it does have:
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#4594835 - 12/05/17 10:14 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS]
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Registered: 05/14/12
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Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS
Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.

Really?

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#4594858 - 12/05/17 10:30 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
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I think where Falcon LS is they only get the SRT version of the 0w40.
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#4594872 - 12/05/17 10:46 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
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Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

I have used M1, and Penzoil in my VW over the years. My car likes the Castrol 0w40 the best thus far. I change it out every 5k miles.


Jeff


Edited by Jeffs2006EvoIX (12/05/17 10:48 AM)
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#4594877 - 12/05/17 10:53 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX]
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Registered: 10/12/15
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Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

Pennzoil Euro Oils - 2 in 0W weights
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#4594880 - 12/05/17 10:56 AM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Falcon_LS]
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Registered: 10/12/15
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Originally Posted By: Falcon_LS

If you're looking for LL-01, Pennzoil does not meet it, nor does it have any ACEA approvals.


Euro 5W-40 has LL-01 see link below.
Hope that helps.

Pennzoil Euro 5W-40 has LL-01 Approval
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#4594958 - 12/05/17 12:49 PM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX]
UG_Passat Offline


Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 1970
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Exceeding the requirement does not mean it has the certification.

The Euro Oils from Penzoil are not 0w anything that I know of? The ones I have seen are 5w something. So where do you find Penzoil Euro in a 0w class? Curious on that one.

I have used M1, and Penzoil in my VW over the years. My car likes the Castrol 0w40 the best thus far. I change it out every 5k miles.


Jeff


My local Wal-Mart has the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 in the 5 qt jugs.
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#4594990 - 12/05/17 01:18 PM Re: 0W-40 - Castrol vs Mobil vs Pennzoil [Re: Ndx]
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Registered: 04/03/17
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Originally Posted By: Ndx

All oils meet A40 spec or LL-04 as required for my cars


Some meet LL-01, some meet LL-04. They are not interchangeable, at least here in NA.
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