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#4591314 - 12/01/17 05:55 PM 2017 Camry
marine65 Offline


Registered: 11/27/14
Posts: 451
Loc: Denver
A coworker has a '17 Camry rental car.
I got to ride in it today.
The first thing I noticed was it had new Big O brand tires on it, the car only has 32K miles.
I thought it was rather snug inside for the size car it was.
Every imperfection in the road was felt.
The interior was so plain jane and boring.
What a dull car.
Do these cars sell simply on the reliability factor?
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#4591318 - 12/01/17 05:59 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10128
Loc: OH
You said the same thing about VW being boring and look at your signature.

Originally Posted By: marine65
I saw a commercial for Volkswagen last night.
6 years/72K miles bumper to bumper.
That's impressive.

Is this a desperate attempt to sell cars after the recent emissions scandal?
Seems like it to me.
If only their vehicles were not so plain jane boring.
I could be tempted.


Impalas seem not boring to you.

Originally Posted By: marine65
Here we are in la Jolla .
The Impala is a fine long haul car
Plenty of leg room in the back seat
No jerky transmission issues
This car is smooth and soaks up all but hardest road bumps and even those are quite well muted .
With 4 adults and a trunk full of luggage and average speed 80 MPH the car is getting a bit over 20 miles per gallon.
Two areas could use improvement.
A bit more sound insulation,it's very quiet but could be better.
The biggest fault is the rear seat cushion,too flat and too hard.
But all in all this is a great long distance hauler


Please see below, thanks!

Originally Posted By: marine65
My friend has a 2015 Tahoe with 52K.
The A/C compressor went bad (more GM junk)
The dealer can not locate a genuine GM part anywhere.
He asked about an after market compressor and they said they have a high failure rate.
What's up with that?


Edited by SatinSilver (12/01/17 06:05 PM)

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#4591326 - 12/01/17 06:05 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: SatinSilver]
marine65 Offline


Registered: 11/27/14
Posts: 451
Loc: Denver
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
You said the same thing about VW being boring and look at your signature.

Originally Posted By: marine65
I saw a commercial for Volkswagen last night.
6 years/72K miles bumper to bumper.
That's impressive.

Is this a desperate attempt to sell cars after the recent emissions scandal?
Seems like it to me.
If only their vehicles were not so plain jane boring.
I could be tempted.


Impalas seem not boring to you.

Originally Posted By: marine65
Here we are in la Jolla .
The Impala is a fine long haul car
Plenty of leg room in the back seat
No jerky transmission issues
This car is smooth and soaks up all but hardest road bumps and even those are quite well muted .
With 4 adults and a trunk full of luggage and average speed 80 MPH the car is getting a bit over 20 miles per gallon.
Two areas could use improvement.
A bit more sound insulation,it's very quiet but could be better.
The biggest fault is the rear seat cushion,too flat and too hard.
But all in all this is a great long distance hauler


What does my signature have to do with boring looking cars?
Yes my 2 cars are boring but I did not drop 30K or more on one car.
If I'm going to buy a new car it better turn heads.
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#4591327 - 12/01/17 06:05 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
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Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4392
Loc: The Midwest
I'm guessing you rode in the SE model? It has a stiffer suspension than the other models according to Consumers Reports.
Side note: The cars in the OP's signature look boring.




Edited by skyactiv (12/01/17 06:07 PM)
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#4591328 - 12/01/17 06:06 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
97prizm Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 748
Loc: USA
Yes. I'll say it once then say it again, Toyota and Lexus are built on bland vanilla driving dynamics but reliability seems to be their motto. As someone that sold Lexus vehicles they aren't BMW or Audi. Customers complained that it needed premium fuel, when the sticker on some vehicles were $50-$60,000. The "F" sport "performance" package didn't even increase power or torque. In fact many of the older customers disliked the newer styling, and wanted an older model because of it.
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#4591333 - 12/01/17 06:11 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
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Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4392
Loc: The Midwest
It better turn heads? OMG


Edited by skyactiv (12/01/17 06:11 PM)
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#4591337 - 12/01/17 06:13 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: marine65
Do these cars sell simply on the reliability factor?

Pretty much. Cars in this segment aren't designed to be thrilling to drive.
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#4591366 - 12/01/17 06:42 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
02SE Offline


Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 2725
Loc: The Canyons
Originally Posted By: marine65
A coworker has a '17 Camry rental car.
I got to ride in it today.
The first thing I noticed was it had new Big O brand tires on it, the car only has 32K miles.
I thought it was rather snug inside for the size car it was.
Every imperfection in the road was felt.
The interior was so plain jane and boring.
What a dull car.
Do these cars sell simply on the reliability factor?


Maybe that's why they are a new design for 2018.

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#4591385 - 12/01/17 07:00 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 14211
Loc: Silicon Valley
New car tires don't last long, they are there to meet fuel economy requirement and handling, you can buy what you want after they wear out, which is Big O in this case.

Boring is good, especially if it doesn't depreciate much and last a long time. Turning head, well, not everyone wants to have a high profile...

Now if they can be cheaper that'll be great. Camry's interior quality is better than the Sonata I saw (and most domestic I rented), so I guess it depends on where you notice it and where you come from. My 95 Corolla interior is great, in terms of no sharp edges and fit and finish, not the "bling" factor.


Edited by PandaBear (12/01/17 07:02 PM)
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#4591406 - 12/01/17 07:24 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
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A low-line '17 Camry can be bought brand new for around 16K.
For that kind of coin, it's an exceptional car.
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#4591408 - 12/01/17 07:25 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10097
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
2017 is last generation model, they've got a redesigned 2018 out now.

I haven't driven a 2017 Camry but I sat in one. Not even comparable as far as comfort or especially roominess as my Sonata.

My Sonata is HUGE compared to a 2017 Camry. It's a perfect balance for me as far as comfort, ride comfort, etc.

And it only cost me $9,990....
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#4591413 - 12/01/17 07:30 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: fdcg27]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10128
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
A low-line '17 Camry can be bought brand new for around 16K.
For that kind of coin, it's an exceptional car.


The dealers here were sold out of them in mid-September and were right around $19k plus tt&l. Corollas can be had for that price after taxes and fees. So an out-the-door price. There was a hefty rebate on them back in August-September but the dealers lowered their discount since they were selling so well.

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#4591427 - 12/01/17 07:45 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: Quattro Pete]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21180
Loc: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: marine65
Do these cars sell simply on the reliability factor?

Pretty much. Cars in this segment aren't designed to be thrilling to drive.

Very reliable and great for the money.

I always recommend them.

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#4591574 - 12/01/17 11:19 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4732
Loc: MTL, CANADA
It didnt impress me either. Definitely not on my list.
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#4591575 - 12/01/17 11:20 PM Re: 2017 Camry [Re: marine65]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4732
Loc: MTL, CANADA
The 2018 has more power..but still..
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