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#4560689 - 10/31/17 09:39 PM Battery change memory savers
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
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I have a new "memory saver" that attaches a 12V power source (e.g. Spare battery) to the car's OBDII port during a battery change to save radio presets, PCM "learning" and the like.

This seemed like a "no-brainer" and a smart thing to do but I see conflicting advice on, you guessed it, the Internet: some sources say it's prudent and almost essential but other say it's dangerous.

What's been the exprience here? Thanks.

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#4560712 - 10/31/17 10:10 PM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 06/02/14
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I tried using a saver on my lexus OBD port and lost everything this way.

Going forward I will use one of my smart chargers with a "maintain mode" for this connected direct to the battery leads.


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#4560713 - 10/31/17 10:12 PM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 10/12/17
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Loc: MI
depends on the vehicle and you have to be careful. ODB ports are only spec'd for 4 amps officially, but it depends on what fuse they're running off. Interior lights, auto lamps/DRL, fancy radio head units and the like can draw quite a bit of power

You have to plug it in and keep the doors closed to ensure the vehicle won't draw too much power. If you accidentally open the door with the battery disconnected, there's a small chance you could blow a fuse and have to go hunting for it.

Typically, when I have the time or it's important to not lose settings like security codes, I will use a small 12V SLA battery with test leads to battery lugs or fuse panel under the hood.

With proper precautions taken, they're very convenient to have around and if it has a 2 pin sae connector, it can be used with a bunch of different battery maintainers and low amperage chargers.

Some of the Noco chargers have a 12V 3-5A maintain/supply mode that works well for this.
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#4560726 - 10/31/17 10:29 PM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
djb Offline


Registered: 01/16/06
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The conventional device uses 9V battery hooked through the lighter socket.

A 9V battery doesn't need a fuse. It's so weak it can't put out enough current for a dome lamp, let alone blow the typical 15 amp fuse for the lighter socket.

You don't see these devices much any more. Most settings are stored in non-volatile memory, and a 9V battery isn't powerful enough to run the ECUs in not-quite-asleep mode.

I wouldn't use a smart charger, or a really dumb one. A smart charger will shut off when it doesn't detect a battery, and typically produces high frequency noise on the output that may not properly power ECUs. A dumb charger may output a high voltage with no load, and may be essentially unfiltered 60 Hz pulses.

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#4560727 - 10/31/17 10:30 PM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: HorseThief]
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
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Originally Posted By: HorseThief
depends on the vehicle and you have to be careful. ODB ports are only spec'd for 4 amps officially, but it depends on what fuse they're running off. Interior lights, auto lamps/DRL, fancy radio head units and the like can draw quite a bit of power

You have to plug it in and keep the doors closed to ensure the vehicle won't draw too much power. If you accidentally open the door with the battery disconnected, there's a small chance you could blow a fuse and have to go hunting for it.

Typically, when I have the time or it's important to not lose settings like security codes, I will use a small 12V SLA battery with test leads to battery lugs or fuse panel under the hood.

With proper precautions taken, they're very convenient to have around and if it has a 2 pin sae connector, it can be used with a bunch of different battery maintainers and low amperage chargers.

Some of the Noco chargers have a 12V 3-5A maintain/supply mode that works well for this.


Just to be sure I understand, you'd rather use essentially a spare 12V lead-acid battery with jumper cables attached to the positive and negative battery cables than going through the OBDII port? Thanks.


Edited by Danh (10/31/17 10:30 PM)

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#4560737 - 10/31/17 10:46 PM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 2799
Loc: California
I just use my little jump starter at the battery cable terminals. Switched out 3 vehicle batteries recently, no issues.

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#4560800 - 11/01/17 12:51 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
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Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
I change a lot of batteries on a lot of cars at work (auto parts store) and we never bother with the stupid obd2 memory saver gizmo that corporate tells us to use... never any problems. most cars, especially newer toyotas, stall right away the first time it gets started after a battery replacement since it hasn't learned idle but on the second start it's all good.
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#4560817 - 11/01/17 02:36 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 08/14/10
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I have a jump n carry that has a 12v out cigarette lighter style plug, and my outlet in my car stays hot all the time so I just hook them together and it even has enough power to run the power locks and lights without blowing a fuse.

I saw they make a new product that plugs into obd and that's its only function.

https://www.cloreautomotive.com/sku.php?id=554
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#4560864 - 11/01/17 05:40 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
kb27 Offline


Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 160
Loc: Singapore
For memory saving, I use a small lithium-ion jump starter plugged into the DC socket, with a modified cable, EC5 connector and a fused plug.
Then I'd turn on the ignition to connect up the circuit, before replacing battery.

I tried to connect at the battery terminal, but sometimes, the clip would slipped off or get knocked off by my changing of the battery.

The DC socket way is more reliable, but have to watch out for high current drain from devices, such as hazard lights, and DRL lights that won't go off.

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#4560871 - 11/01/17 05:51 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I have used the 9 volt in the cigarette lighter for decades and have 0 issues. It's fused and it has a diode.
Just be sure to use it in a port that isn't wired to shut-off with the key.


Edited by StevieC (11/01/17 05:52 AM)
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#4560885 - 11/01/17 06:12 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 01/17/03
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Loc: Coastal South Carolina
odd that the car maker does not cover this in the owners manual
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#4560903 - 11/01/17 06:42 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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I just write down my radio stations etc and it takes me about 2 minutes to re-install. No mess-no foul and good to go. Ed
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#4560922 - 11/01/17 07:18 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 04/18/13
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Loc: Kevil,Ky
+1 on the jump starter
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#4560931 - 11/01/17 07:29 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: Eddie]
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Registered: 12/13/04
Posts: 2471
Loc: Chicago Area
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I just write down my radio stations etc and it takes me about 2 minutes to re-install. No mess-no foul and good to go. Ed
I just changed the battery in the Cobalt, no maintainer, and interestingly enough, the radio retained all the station settings, but the clock needed to be reset.

I did take pictures on my phone of all 5 preset banks just in case, but didn't need them.
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#4561086 - 11/01/17 10:17 AM Re: Battery change memory savers [Re: vwmaniaman]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1821
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: vwmaniaman
+1 on the jump starter


Same here, I leave a jump starter with the spring clamps attached to the battery leads and a ground somewhere. It is a little tougher to deal with since the clamps can slip off while installing the new battery, but I manage considering how infrequently I have to do this procedure.

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