Recent Topics
Driving for Uber as Retirement Gig?
by LoneRanger. 12/19/18 09:53 AM
Follow up on wheel for Chevy Sonic
by WyrTwister. 12/19/18 09:41 AM
Borescope who has one and what is a good one
by Rat407. 12/19/18 09:13 AM
Lubsoil Universal Synthetic Trans Fluid
by GMBoy. 12/19/18 09:00 AM
1994 Civic LX, 1.5L hard to start
by Gito. 12/19/18 08:01 AM
Observation of Mechanics and their tools...
by ToadU. 12/19/18 07:56 AM
Toshiba Laptop HDD Replacement
by Ifixyawata. 12/19/18 07:49 AM
Aisin Warner TF-71SC
by Bailes1992. 12/19/18 06:37 AM
on the Fence about giving up Facebook
by Donald. 12/19/18 06:20 AM
Motorcraft Mercon LV, 15k, 15' Ford Fusion 6F35
by ssamaroo01. 12/19/18 06:14 AM
RockAuto AC compressors
by chrismo. 12/19/18 05:38 AM
Fullers Vintage Ale anyone?
by Lolvoguy. 12/18/18 11:23 PM
Got an alignment
by michaelluscher. 12/18/18 11:18 PM
Castrol Edge 0W-40; 9,762 mi; 2016 Ford Fiesta ST
by asiancivicmaniac. 12/18/18 10:50 PM
Windows Defender Error Code
by ZeeOSix. 12/18/18 10:20 PM
UOA Motul 300V, 5w40, 2013 BMW S1000RR
by Sportbiker. 12/18/18 09:53 PM
Under valve cover pics
by barkingspider. 12/18/18 09:47 PM
Kubota Super UDT2? Anything better?
by Jmoney7269. 12/18/18 09:23 PM
Newest Members
blkvzgo, AdamJames, Firefighter3244, Sportbiker, trollhattan
66721 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
96 registered members (Asterix, Bailes1992, aquariuscsm, arob85, andyd, 11 invisible), 1,834 guests, and 40 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics295,261
Posts4,931,122
Members66,721
Most Online2,553
Oct 27th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec #4533074
10/03/17 02:28 PM
10/03/17 02:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
bradtech Offline OP
bradtech  Offline OP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
Picked up a new 2017 Chevy Malibu with 1.5L Ecotec & got rid of my Hyundai with electrical gremlins. Been searching through forum for UOA with the car or people talking about the engines. Any oil recommendations not finding a lot? Got another free oil change at dealer. I think they use the AC Delco Full Syn 5w30 there. I believe Mobil makes it. Was thinking of switching over to Castrol Edge or Valvoline full syn. Looks like full syn is the only option. Guess people runnning semi-syn was causing engine failures from search results. Looks like most major brands are Dexos 2 now like Edge/PP/Valvoline Synpower.


Last edited by bradtech; 10/03/17 02:31 PM.

17 Chevrolet Malibu 3k 5w30 AC Delco Full Syn
08 Hyundai Santa Fe 78k 5w20 GTX HM OEM Filter
93 Chevy S10 203k 10w30 GTX HM ACDELCO PF52E Filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533077
10/03/17 02:32 PM
10/03/17 02:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,283
WI
HoosierJeeper Offline
HoosierJeeper  Offline
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,283
WI
Probably would be wise to stick with stuff rated Dexos2 for warranty purposes. I know Synpower already carries it, although really any major full syn will be fine.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4533080
10/03/17 02:36 PM
10/03/17 02:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
bradtech Offline OP
bradtech  Offline OP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
Yeah, plan on sticking with the Delco filters as well. Dang things are 11-12 bucks. Debating on whether to let the lube dudes at the dealer change the oil again. I'm sure I'll be trying to crawl under it and drive around paranoid until I do it myself.

Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Probably would be wise to stick with stuff rated Dexos2 for warranty purposes. I know Synpower already carries it, although really any major full syn will be fine.

Last edited by bradtech; 10/03/17 02:36 PM.

17 Chevrolet Malibu 3k 5w30 AC Delco Full Syn
08 Hyundai Santa Fe 78k 5w20 GTX HM OEM Filter
93 Chevy S10 203k 10w30 GTX HM ACDELCO PF52E Filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4533087
10/03/17 02:41 PM
10/03/17 02:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
oil_film_movies Offline
oil_film_movies  Offline
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
That engine is sometimes tricky about oil level. Takes 2 hours to completely drain the sump, which Quickie Lubes and dealerships won't and can't do.....
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4532108/Re:_2017_Pacifica_First_Oil_Ch#Post4532108

I have that same engine. Gets great MPG with enough power and torque around 2,000 RPM to get-r-done.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4513632/Re:_'18_Equinox:__Whats_New,_G#Post4513390

Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Probably would be wise to stick with stuff rated Dexos2 for warranty purposes. I know Synpower already carries it, although really any major full syn will be fine.
Not "Dexos2", thats for diesels only. He wants "dexos1 Gen2", and Valvoline Synpower 0w20 does have that approval. Although technically a 2017 is approved for dexos1 Gen1, it is a DI-turbo so it could use the LSPI approval in Gen2 stuff. Any full syn with low calcium should be allright, as in any Mobil1 0w20 you see, as calcium gets blamed for most LSPI events in practice.

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: oil_film_movies] #4533093
10/03/17 02:57 PM
10/03/17 02:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 9,862
Kendall, FL
wemay Offline
wemay  Offline
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 9,862
Kendall, FL
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
He wants "dexos1 Gen2", and Valvoline Synpower 0w20 does have that approval. Although technically a 2017 is approved for dexos1 Gen1, it is a DI-turbo so it could use the LSPI approval in Gen2 stuff. Any full syn with low calcium should be allright, as in any Mobil1 0w20 you see, as calcium gets blamed for most LSPI events in practice.


Spot on!


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: PP 10W30 + WIX 51334XP + e air WIX 10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: M1EP 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX 49670

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: oil_film_movies] #4533100
10/03/17 03:13 PM
10/03/17 03:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
bradtech Offline OP
bradtech  Offline OP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
I'm getting better MPG with my Malibu so far than my Accent. Running 87 octane Top-Tier fuel. On this trip I'm at 41.3 mpg. I'll probably lose some mpg on the way home today. Thanks for the slow drain advice I've missed that one. I think I'll stick with Castrol Edge 5w30 when the time comes. I found it on the Dexos1 gen2 approved list while ago.


Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
That engine is sometimes tricky about oil level. Takes 2 hours to completely drain the sump, which Quickie Lubes and dealerships won't and can't do.....
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4532108/Re:_2017_Pacifica_First_Oil_Ch#Post4532108

I have that same engine. Gets great MPG with enough power and torque around 2,000 RPM to get-r-done.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4513632/Re:_'18_Equinox:__Whats_New,_G#Post4513390

Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Probably would be wise to stick with stuff rated Dexos2 for warranty purposes. I know Synpower already carries it, although really any major full syn will be fine.
Not "Dexos2", thats for diesels only. He wants "dexos1 Gen2", and Valvoline Synpower 0w20 does have that approval. Although technically a 2017 is approved for dexos1 Gen1, it is a DI-turbo so it could use the LSPI approval in Gen2 stuff. Any full syn with low calcium should be allright, as in any Mobil1 0w20 you see, as calcium gets blamed for most LSPI events in practice.


17 Chevrolet Malibu 3k 5w30 AC Delco Full Syn
08 Hyundai Santa Fe 78k 5w20 GTX HM OEM Filter
93 Chevy S10 203k 10w30 GTX HM ACDELCO PF52E Filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533114
10/03/17 03:34 PM
10/03/17 03:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,443
New England
Virtus_Probi Offline
Virtus_Probi  Offline
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,443
New England
GM recalled the 1.5l Malibus not too long ago due to LSPI ("super knock") issues, this was discussed in an earlier thread.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4331368/Stochastic_Pre-Ignition_(SPI)_

Note that GM was very specific about the oil to be used in those engines at that time.
Yes, you will definitely want to look for dexos1 Gen 2 (not dexos2, as mentioned above) oils that have passed an LSPI test in the future. So far, members here have seen Valvoline Synpower and Maxlife, Royal Purple, and M1 AP jugs with a Gen 2 logo and/or license # at various Walmarts. Gen 2 oils should become much more common very soon...


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533116
10/03/17 03:38 PM
10/03/17 03:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,501
Clovis, CA
Merkava_4 Offline
Merkava_4  Offline
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,501
Clovis, CA
What's the recommended viscosity out of curiosity ?

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: Merkava_4] #4533124
10/03/17 03:54 PM
10/03/17 03:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
oil_film_movies Offline
oil_film_movies  Offline
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
What's the recommended viscosity out of curiosity ?
Great question. This Malibu is the LFV version of the 1.5T, and my '18 Equinox uses the LYX 1.5T. The Malibu LFV uses 0w30 or 5w30 dexos1 Gen2, and my LYX uses 0w20. I can't explain why. I do know that my 0w20-engine produces more peak torque, at 204 ft-lbs, while the Malibu's engine peaks at 184 ft-lbs. Very confusing.
Maybe the 2018 Malibu actually will use 0w20 like the 2018 Equinox uses, not sure yet.

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: Merkava_4] #4533128
10/03/17 03:56 PM
10/03/17 03:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
bradtech Offline OP
bradtech  Offline OP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 88
OK, USA
Oil cap on mine says 5w30. Manual says 5w30. Heard some newer ones might use 0w20. I had dealer run my VIN and it came back 5w30 still.

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
What's the recommended viscosity out of curiosity ?


17 Chevrolet Malibu 3k 5w30 AC Delco Full Syn
08 Hyundai Santa Fe 78k 5w20 GTX HM OEM Filter
93 Chevy S10 203k 10w30 GTX HM ACDELCO PF52E Filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533130
10/03/17 04:00 PM
10/03/17 04:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
oil_film_movies Offline
oil_film_movies  Offline
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,566
MN
Originally Posted By: bradtech
I'm getting better MPG with my Malibu so far than my Accent. Running 87 octane Top-Tier fuel. On this trip I'm at 41.3 mpg. I'll probably lose some mpg on the way home today. Thanks for the slow drain advice I've missed that one. I think I'll stick with Castrol Edge 5w30 when the time comes. I found it on the Dexos1 gen2 approved list while ago.
Its capable of big MPG numbers, I can see that already in my Equinox with the 1.5T.
Just make sure you don't accidentally get old-stock Edge 5w30. Lots of old-stock around for a while. It should say "Gen 2" in the lower right hand corner of the dexos1 logo on the front of the bottle or jug. Later it should be easy to find, but not now.

So the dealership didn't overfill or underfill your car?
When I go in, I'll probably tell them to put in 4 quarts (under spec for mine) to make sure they don't overfill after their quick-drain method.

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533140
10/03/17 04:25 PM
10/03/17 04:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,443
New England
Virtus_Probi Offline
Virtus_Probi  Offline
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,443
New England
Couldn't find a convenient link to a 2018 Malibu manual, but I did find this in one for the 2018 Equinox.

"Ask for and use engine oils that meet the dexos1 specification. Engine oils that have been approved by GM as meeting the dexos1 specification are marked with the dexos1 approved logo. See www.gmdexos.com.
Caution
Failure to use the recommended engine oil or equivalent can result in engine damage not covered by the vehicle warranty.
Viscosity Grade For the LYX 1.5L turbo engine, use: . Dexos1 approved ACDelco Full Synthetic 0W20 engine oil. . Dexos1 approved Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 0W20 engine oil. . Or any other 0W20 engine oil meeting dexos1 second generation requirements. Use SAE5W-30 viscosity grade engine oil for the LTG 2.0L turbo engine."

So, for the 2018 Equinox' version of the 1.5l engine, they recommend;
1. dexos1 ACDelco 0W20,
2. dexos1 M1 0W20, or
3. any dexos1 Gen 2 0W20.

Interesting that they say any dexos1 5W30 is OK for the 2.0l turbo.


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533166
10/03/17 04:56 PM
10/03/17 04:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,981
Upper Midwest by the Lakes USA
SumpChump Offline
SumpChump  Offline
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,981
Upper Midwest by the Lakes USA
I like how the alternator is mounted to the bottom and in the rear.

Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: SumpChump] #4533184
10/03/17 05:16 PM
10/03/17 05:16 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,493
out there
spasm3 Offline
spasm3  Offline
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,493
out there
Originally Posted By: SumpChump
I like how the alternator is mounted to the bottom and in the rear.


That looks like a pain to change!


13 elantra 72k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche 80k synpwr 5w30
17 mazda cx-5 7300 miles m1 0w30
Re: bought chevy malibu with 1.5 ecotec [Re: bradtech] #4533188
10/03/17 05:21 PM
10/03/17 05:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,348
Michigan
BobsArmory Offline
BobsArmory  Offline
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,348
Michigan


Yes they can get great mileage! We love our Malibu!

I need you to do one thing. As far as oil filters go your car should take a special oil filter ACDelco UPF64R. It's important that the dealership put that filter on (different bypass pressures, filter media). Both of our free dealership oil changes, they put the cheaper PF64 filter on and I brought the car back and had them put the correct filter on.

Not many aftermarket filters have a bona fide match to this filter yet so buyer beware. Most of the time they will cross reference you to the PF64 style filter. I think Fram does but for now I just get a UPF64R from Amazon.


Keeping the forces of evil at bay
2016 Chevy Malibu LT 1.5 Liter Turbo
2017 Chevy Equinox LT 2.4 Liter
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™