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Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far #4530114
09/30/17 09:04 AM
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Good morning BITOG folks.

I must say that the 2.4 2AZ-FE engine in my 09' Camry is very smooth running with the Liqui Moly MOS2. I'll keep using it also smile

Anyone else have good experience or bad with it?


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: 53' Stude] #4530119
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It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger
Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: skyactiv] #4530122
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.



It is a bit strange that a company with 'Moly' in it's name sells oils with little to no moly in them.

I have used their moly additive in the past but I'm really not sure if there was any benefit...(I'm not sure there wasn't any benefit either)...


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Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: skyactiv] #4530126
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.


Well, this says "contains mineral oil AND molybendum disulfide shrug hide


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: skyactiv] #4530127
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.


Same here. It's weird that only one of their oils contains moly (and it's advertised on the label that it contains their M0S2) and the rest have zero moly. I tried a can in the Mustang one time and noticed absolutely nothing,expect for turning the oil dark gray.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: 53' Stude] #4530129
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A lot of engineering studies and also many oil formulators use a lot of moly. It does work.
Idemitsu, Redline, Pennzoil (Ultra 0w40), Schaeffers, Mobil1 Racing Oil, and some I've missed, all use tons of moly.
Usually you see around 80 ppm (low to medium) amounts to pass the Sequence VID part of GF-5, the fuel economy increase (FEI) tests.
Moly doesn't appear to interfere with ZDDP and other additives in oil, so its considered safe to add.

Standing on the outside of the engine, you'll probably never notice a difference. Not observable. Doesn't mean its not making an improvement though.

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Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: oil_film_movies] #4530133
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
A lot of engineering studies and also many oil formulators use a lot of moly. It does work.
Idemitsu, Redline, Pennzoil (Ultra 0w40), Schaeffers, Mobil1 Racing Oil, and some I've missed, all use tons of moly.
Usually you see around 80 ppm (low to medium) amounts to pass the Sequence VID part of GF-5, the fuel economy increase (FEI) tests.
Moly doesn't appear to interfere with ZDDP and other additives in oil, so its considered safe to add.


Thanks for the info. Next fill will be Chevron Supreme 10w30 SN, and some EMBLEM 10w30 HDEO that's from 91' with half can of MOS2


The EMBLEM oil was made in Warren PA

Last edited by car51; 09/30/17 09:20 AM.

09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: 53' Stude] #4530148
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Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: 53' Stude] #4530157
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I'm coming up on an oil change soon. Car was down about a quarter of a quart after 4800 miles. Poured in 8 ounces of MMO and car seems much smoother after adding it. No moly in it but something to consider using. I also added some to the fuel at the recommended dosage and didn't notice any benefits. Not expensive and avail at WM.

Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: aquariuscsm] #4530169
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.

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Originally Posted By: Danh
What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


Pennzoil conventional as of 2016 in 5w20 has 187 ppm of moly in it.

Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: Danh] #4530184
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Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/quakerstate.htm


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

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So you mean this forum isn't "Bob is the Synthetic Oil Guy"? Heresy.

Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: aquariuscsm] #4530218
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/quakerstate.htm




Do the hm oil's have the same moly?


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
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Re: Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far [Re: rollinpete] #4530253
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Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/quakerstate.htm




Do the hm oil's have the same moly?


Yep
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/PZHM.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/QSDEFY.htm


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

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