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3/4 ton engines--advise me #4495651
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I'm going to be buying a used Chevy 2500 or Ford F-250. The engine will be gas (not diesel).
~~~So please stay on topic to those parameters. ~~~
The model year will be 2002-2008, 4wd, likely crew cab. I will be patient...watching several months if needed to buy a well maintained truck. I could go into my reasons for wanting the above, but don't want to take this off topic other than to say I won't be pulling over 4K pounds.
I'm not concerned about gas mileage. Power is probably not an issue for me.
I want reliability and longevity.
QUESTION: Within those parameters, are there any engines to avoid?? Any engines I should try and get??
Thanks for your feedback!

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495657
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Get a GM 8.1! Last of the big blocks!


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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495661
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The 5.4 Fords have alot of horror stories. I like the one I got but I admit I really was afraid of it and almost didn't buy the truck because of it.
Still I see alot of high mileage ones around.
Don't know much about Chevy's.
So no comments.



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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495663
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In that year range I vote Chevrolet hands down. I've never been impressed with how the ford OHC engines tow in the 2500/3500 trucks.

Additionally the 6.0 gas engine in the Chevrolet has proven time and time again to be exceptionally durable. Mileage isn't a strong suit of them but they will and do pull hard day in and day out. I also prefer the was of maintenance on the Chevrolet vs the OHC Ford should you have to repair or replace anything.

The only other engine offering in that timeframe from Chevrolet is the 8.1L big block. Also not a mileage maker in terms of economy but it's my absolute favorite late model engine for something thats going to be worked hard. It was designed from the ground up as a HD light/medium duty engine and is used in trucks, motor homes, boats, moving trucks etc. It really doesn't get any better in a work truck engine.


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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495664
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Not attempting to highjack you but did you consider the Dodge with the Hemi.
That motor is bulletproof, powerful but soooo hard on gas.
They put a heavier dutier motor in thier 2500s than the 1500s.
Lower HP but better longevity.

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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495665
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Towing 4k and want a crew cab? Sounds like a job for an S-10, not a 2500 hornets

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495672
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Towing 4K I'd be looking at half ton gasser for better mpg. Regardless, GM 6.0 hands down. The Ford 5.4s are prone to issues. The V10 from Ford however are well respected, and still used today in the econoline chassis. You'll be paying for it at the pumps however vs the 6.0

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: hondb20] #4495674
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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495678
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4k lbs? Any reason not to get a 1/2 ton? Thats well within a 1/2 ton. I towed a 1992 Mustang on a UHaul car hauler a few months ago behind a '13 Silverado 1500 Z71 with the 5.3L. I estimate it was just over 5k lbs (technically over the rating, but within 10%) behind the truck and it did phenomenal. I went I-90 East over Snoqualmie pass with the cruise set to 60mph and it had no trouble maintaining that. I had power in reserve. I couldve gone faster if I wanted, but I didnt.

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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: Colt45ws] #4495683
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Payload. I just mentioned 4K so people wouldn't jump to diesel recommendations. At times I will be hauling heavy loads in the bed.
Looks like GM 6.0 is well liked and fairly easy to find.

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495687
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Ford's V10 or Chevy's 8.1 are big and thirsty - they serve a purpose but you said gobs of power isn't a big concern. Can't speak to the power Ford's 5.4 develops but they're not without their problems. I maintain several 6.0's with over 200K on them and they're all showing every sign of outliving the trucks they're in. Gas mileage, especially loaded, isn't a lot better than the 454 it replaced but its power output seems appropriate for a gas 3/4 ton truck.

Out of all the post-1990 3/4 ton gas trucks I've driven, the one that stands out is a 2000 Chevy K2500 with the pre-DBW 6.0 - feels like a strange, but very good, combination of my '85 GMC 1-ton and a '98 K2500 Suburban (454) I've driven, with more refinement than either. The manual throttle body really changes the response and feel of ballsy-ness of the 6.0.

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To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: Alex_V] #4495689
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Originally Posted By: Alex_V
Ford's V10 or Chevy's 8.1 are big and thirsty - they serve a purpose but you said gobs of power isn't a big concern. Can't speak to the power Ford's 5.4 develops but they're not without their problems. I maintain several 6.0's with over 200K on them and they're all showing every sign of outliving the trucks they're in. Gas mileage, especially loaded, isn't a lot better than the 454 it replaced but its power output seems appropriate for a gas 3/4 ton truck.

Good info---thanks

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495691
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6.0L/4L80E. The 8.1L/Allison 1000 is great but not needed to haul around 4,000#

Research "Pump Rub" when looking to buy 4x4 GMT800 pick-ups.


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Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495692
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Originally Posted By: lukejo
QUESTION: Within those parameters, are there any engines to avoid?? Any engines I should try and get??


Yes! Avoid multi-cylinder deactivation and variable cam timing phasers.

Get one with an old fashion pushrod V8 that's simple with no unnecessary "technology" to break.

Re: 3/4 ton engines--advise me [Re: lukejo] #4495693
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I like my Ford's, but I think GM has a better powertrain combo during this era of the Ford vs GM.


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